Transcript 21/06/2012 – Age Ain’t Nothing but a Number: Debunking Generational Myths

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chat2lrn Welcome to #chat2lrn! Today’s discussion is Age Ain’t Nothing but a   Number: Debunking Generational Myths http://t.co/k9q7ufBl 15:00:21
niallgavinuk #chat2lrn Just kicking off… may be contributing, RTing etc. 15:01:02
chat2lrn Special thanks to @stipton for raising the topic and writing the blog   post #chat2lrn 15:01:13
viv_cole Good afternoon #chat2lrn 15:01:16
chat2lrn Remember to include Q# in related responses, so that others can follow   your trail of thought. #chat2lrn. 15:01:25
olliegardener Welcome to #chat2lrn! Today’s discussion is Age Ain’t Nothing but a   Number: Debunking Generational Myths http://t.co/xxAQWpkf #chat2lrn 15:01:31
chat2lrn Q0) Please introduce yourself, where are you and which generational   “box” you fit into? #chat2lrn 15:01:39
npmaven RT @chat2lrn: Welcome to #chat2lrn! Topic is Age Ain’t Nothing but a Number: Debunking Generational Myths http://t.co/T7pE0oju #chat2lrn 15:01:45
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: Welcome! Today’s discussion is Age Ain’t Nothing but a   #: Debunking Generational Myths http://t.co/2eCk1cok #chat2lrn 15:01:59
tomspiglanin Hello all! How are we this fine day? I’m stuck in traffic! #chat2lrn 15:02:06
niallgavinuk #chat2lrn q1) Hi all, Niall Gavin, FirstGroup; under 100 15:02:20
tomspiglanin RT @chat2lrn: Q0) Please introduce yourself, where are you and which   generational “box” you fit into? #chat2lrn 15:02:29
lesleywprice Hi folks….Lesley Price coming to you from a wet Loughborough,   UK….I’m told I’m a baby boomer!
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tomspiglanin @chat2lrn q0)  isn’t that a   rather personal question, #chat2lrn ? 15:03:06
olliegardener Hi everyone 🙂 @owenferguson @wendytagg @viv_cole @npmaven   @niallgavinuk @tomspiglanin … ok this is getting silly 🙂 … etc..   #chat2lrn 15:03:18
lesleywprice RT @chat2lrn: Q0) Please introduce yourself, where are you and which   generational “box” you fit into? #chat2lrn 15:03:19
alc47 Q0 Nic Laycock in a very wet SW England. I am 64 but I refuse to be   put in a generational box! #Chat2lrn 15:03:23
ColinSteed #chat2lrn Q0) Colin Steed – CEO LPI – home in Bucks UK and am what is   called an OAP 15:03:34
stipton shannon baby boomer! #chat2lrn vacationing in california! 15:03:57
owenferguson Q0) Owen from @goodpractice in Edinburgh. Depends who’s boxes they are   – sometimes I’m gen X, sometimes even gen Y (not often tho) #chat2lrn 15:04:06
viv_cole Hi, I’m an e-learning consultant who straddles the generational   boxes…ouch in Sussex  Q0)  #chat2lrn 15:04:08
lesleywprice Hi Colin….glad you could join in….OAP….never!!  #chat2lrn 15:04:20
alc47 @ColinSteed But not Old And Past it! #Chat2lrn 15:04:44
lesleywprice Hi Viv….glad you could join us……sounds painful 🙂 #chat2lrn 15:04:49
olliegardener *waves* from Cardiff, South Wales (raining)..Think I am straddling X   and Y..?!  #chat2lrn 15:05:14
megbertapelle Q0) Meg Bertapelle Instructional Designer at Intuitive Surgical in   Sunnyvale, CA, I think I’m Gen X? #chat2lrn 15:05:15
Marcoable Hi I’m @marcoable and I’m just in the Gen X box although my kids make   me feel like a baby boomer! coming from a wet Somerset #chat2lrn 15:06:03
viv_cole As someone who did O levels, good to see they’re coming back 😉   #chat2lrn 15:06:13
chat2lrn Q1) What generational myth is associated with your generation that is   the most inaccurate? #chat2lrn 15:06:15
alc47 Q0 Seems like some of us are having trouble with this one – adage one   thing, behaviour another #Chat2lrn 15:06:38
megbertapelle @tomspiglanin oh no! 😦 I’m sitting at McDonald’s having a diet coke   ’cause I couldn’t make it to work on time! #chat2lrn 15:06:49
lesleywprice RT @chat2lrn: Q1) What generational myth is associated with your   generation that is the most inaccurate? #chat2lrn 15:06:52
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: Q1) What generational myth is associated with your   generation that is the most inaccurate? #chat2lrn 15:07:01
WendyTagg #chat2lrn Q0) Hi. I’m Wendy, a training consultant working for an IT   company and I grew up with IT – late 40s so don’t know which box! 15:07:05
ColinSteed #chat2lrn @alc47 No more energy than most millenials Nic! 15:07:38
lesleywprice @Alc47  that’s the problem with   putting people in boxes lol!! #chat2lrn 15:07:48
alc47 Q1 That there are behaviour characteristics that “box” any   of us #Chat2lrn 15:07:53
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn Hi everyone!!!  Zara   here from Mississauga Ontatio Canada. Ready to chit chat today 15:08:23
viv_cole Q1) pretending to be young, I’d say that having a short attention span   is a myth. If it’s interesting I’ve got lots of attention #chat2lrn 15:08:32
stipton @WendyTagg If you’re closer to 50 than 40 you may just be a boomer   #chat2lrn 15:08:34
ZaraLynnKing RT @chat2lrn: Q1) What generational myth is associated with your   generation that is the most inaccurate? #chat2lrn 15:08:43
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn that i am lazy and unmotivated to succeed. 15:09:01
alc47 @ColinSteed I suppose you and I belong to the last millennium – but   that doesn’t mean anything other than my biological age #Chat2lrn 15:09:06
ColinSteed #chat2lrn Q1) That because of my age I am past it – could give most   people a run for their money! 15:09:07
stipton RT @lesleywprice: RT @chat2lrn: Q1) What generational myth is   associated with your generation that is the most inaccurate? #chat2lrn 15:09:41
owenferguson Q1) I’m not even sure that the myths are coherent. Many of them seem   to be contradictory #chat2lrn 15:09:57
stipton @ZaraLynnKing Hi Zara! #chat2lrn 15:10:12
WendyTagg RT @chat2lrn: Q1) What generational myth is associated with your   generation that is the most inaccurate? #chat2lrn 15:10:12
lesleywprice q1) Baby boomers are not ‘meant’ to be adept at using SoMe &   technology in general….I know far more than my kids who are GenY #chat2lrn 15:10:16
ZaraLynnKing @stipton hey! #chat2lrn 15:10:22
lorimillercoach Correct. 53 and tail end of Boomers. RT @stipton: @WendyTagg If you’re   closer to 50 than 40 you may just be a boomer #chat2lrn 15:10:39
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn I think that most of us in learning are exceptions and it is   hard to understand the generational labels 15:11:08
alc47 Q1 quite true we pass through phases of life but that is individual   and does not mean I do not change #Chat2lrn 15:11:21
olliegardener q1) uninterested, disloyal.. definitely interested, enthusiastic and   loyal.. but maybe in a different way or to different things? #chat2lrn 15:11:25
lorimillercoach Boomer and reformed workaholic. #chat2lrn 15:11:26
niallgavinuk RT @ZaraLynnKing: #chat2lrn I think that most of us in learning are exceptions   and it is hard to understand the generational labels << agree 15:11:26
Marcoable Q1 – Gen X apparently I am unable to work without technology! so wrong   on so many levels #chat2lrn 15:11:27
WendyTagg #chat2lrn Q1) That we are unwilling to use new technologies. However,   I am picky – only the best gets into my IT ecosystem 15:11:28
viv_cole @owenferguson good point re inchorence of myths: So the question is   who benefits from perpetrating such myths? #chat2lrn 15:11:51
megbertapelle Q1) to be honest, I don’t know what the “myths” are about   Gen X #chat2lrn 15:11:52
alc47 @ZaraLynnKing If we do not understand them then who does and what use   are they? #Chat2lrn 15:12:02
ColinSteed #chat2lrn @viv_cole So agree – my attention span is greater than my   kids – most myths about attention span are rubbish anyway! 15:12:11
lesleywprice RT @Marcoable: Q1 – Gen X apparently I am unable to work without   technology! so wrong on so many levels <interesting  #chat2lrn 15:12:11
elearningguy I’m late, but I’m here! #chat2lrn 15:12:16
olliegardener LOL 🙂 RT @lorimillercoach: Boomer and reformed workaholic. #chat2lrn 15:12:34
niallgavinuk RT @elearningguy: I’m late, but I’m here! #chat2lrn << Hi Mark 15:12:47
ZaraLynnKing @ColinSteed I think that in many cases we have to be open to change   and flexibility more then our peers in other fields  #chat2lrn 15:12:51
megbertapelle MT @Marcoable: Q1 – Gen X apparently unable to work w/out   technology!…<I LOVE paper & pens & physical craft & art work   #chat2lrn 15:12:58
lesleywprice RT @elearningguy: Im late, but Im here! <nice to see you Mark  🙂 #chat2lrn 15:13:05
lorimillercoach A1 Late boomers adept at SoMe. Silent Gen love internet. Ck out latest   senior communities. Hi-tech. #chat2lrn #LeadingAge 15:13:11
alc47 @elearningguy Which generational “box is that characteristic of?   LOL #Chat2lrn 15:13:19
owenferguson @viv_cole Management consultants looking to inspire panic? People   looking for easy answers to more complex problems? 🙂 #chat2lrn 15:13:45
AmbiusLearn MT @WendyTagg: #chat2lrn Q1) That we are unwilling to use new   technologies. However, I am picky< the most common myth I hear! #chat2lrn 15:13:52
tomspiglanin Whew! In my office and digitally resident once again. Can’t keep a   good boomer down.  #chat2lrn 15:13:53
stipton MT @WendyTagg: #chat2lrn Q1) That we are unwilling to use new   technologies. However, I am picky< the most common myth I hear! #chat2lrn 15:13:53
ZaraLynnKing @alc47 because we don’t fit into the stereotypical mold we have a hard   time understanding the stereotypes that apply to us.  #Chat2lrn 15:14:10
chat2lrn Q2) Are generational theories still relevant today? #chat2lrn 15:14:25
npmaven No, you can’t . 😉  RT   @tomspiglanin: Whew! In my office and digitally resident once again. Cant   keep a good boomer down.  #chat2lrn 15:14:32
elearningguy Hello to all!! #chat2lrn. Been enjoying some of the coincidental   GenLearner tweets of late 15:14:38
lesleywprice RT @chat2lrn: Q2) Are generational theories still relevant today?   #chat2lrn 15:14:48
niallgavinuk #chat2lrn q2) Might be lingering, but their days are numbered! 15:14:58
viv_cole Q2) no! #chat2lrn 15:15:03
olliegardener @alc47 Me! (I’ve got my own personal box 🙂 #chat2lrn 15:15:07
tomspiglanin Q1) I often encounter people who assume boomers, who didn’t grow up   with PCs, video games, and cell phones, don’t use them well.  #chat2lrn 15:15:08
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn for example i am a millennial or gen y  but i have baby boomer drive and gen x   ambition. 15:15:09
tomspiglanin RT @chat2lrn: Q2) Are generational theories still relevant today?   #chat2lrn 15:15:27
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: Q2) Are generational theories still relevant today?   #chat2lrn 15:15:30
ColinSteed #chat2lrn Employers wanting to dispense with higher earners using the   age thing as an excuse – have a good example of that! 15:15:43
alc47 @ZaraLynnKing If people do not fit a mould is it any use? #Chat2lrn 15:15:46
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn I tought my 82 yr old grandpa to text recently. He is the   one that taught me to use a computer. 15:15:55
WendyTagg RT @chat2lrn: Q2) Are generational theories still relevant today?   #chat2lrn 15:15:56
Marcoable Q2) Are generational theories still relevant today? #chat2lrn <No   there is crossover the lines are blurred 15:16:09
elearningguy @alc47 Only the late April 1968 box, I think 😉 #chat2lrn 15:16:14
olliegardener RT @owenferguson: @viv_cole Mng consultants looking to inspire panic?   People looking for easy answers to more complex problems? 🙂 #chat2lrn 15:16:18
alc47 @olliegardener but you are never in your personal box! #Chat2lrn 15:16:26
tomspiglanin Q2) generational theories have merit, but like all generalizations it   depends how they’re used (or abused) #chat2lrn 15:16:26
lesleywprice q2)  I don’t think they are   #chat2lrn 15:16:27
ZaraLynnKing Q2  #Chat2lrn I think yes. Like   anything it can’t be taken literally. 15:16:29
elearningguy Q2) I think their relevance is only as avenues of reexamination. Let’s   blow them apart. Like learning styles #chat2lrn 15:17:01
ZaraLynnKing @alc47 I am not sure. Becaseu there is no mould for any one person we   are all unique #Chat2lrn 15:17:04
viv_cole I guess the benefit of a 2 box model (even if it is flawed) is that it   reminds us not to put everyone in 1 box #chat2lrn 15:17:08
ColinSteed #chat2lrn Q2) What theories? Sorry don’t understand 15:17:11
lorimillercoach A2 Maybe, but in some ways who cares. Understdg helps in wrkplc tho.   #chat2lrn 15:17:14
ZaraLynnKing RT @lorimillercoach: A2 Maybe, but in some ways who cares. Understdg   helps in wrkplc tho. #chat2lrn 15:17:27
lorimillercoach RT @lorimillercoach: A1 Patience required with GenX & Y & tech   attachment. Gr8 multi-taskers! #chat2lrn 15:17:30
alc47 Neither do I! I believe they are constraining and diminishing of   peopleRT @lesleywprice: q2)  I dont   think they are #Chat2lrn 15:17:39
megbertapelle MT @tomspiglanin: Q2) …like all generalizations it depends how   theyre used (or abused) <so true! everything in moderation #chat2lrn 15:17:41
elearningguy True…and *we* know that but how do we educate “the   masses”? RT @zaralynnking: Q2    #Chat2lrn … it can’t be taken literally. 15:17:54
DrGeena Q2 I think yes, but  these   theories are not meant to apply to individuals. #chat2lrn 15:17:55
stipton @tomspiglanin it’s more along the lines of people thinking we DON’T   want to use them.  very incorrect on   most levels. #chat2lrn 15:18:00
lesleywprice q2) generalisations = assumptions my first boss taught me to assume   makes an Ass (of) U (&) me #chat2lrn 15:18:03
tomspiglanin @lttlewys morning, Brandie! Rough getting started here this   morning…but I have coffee! #chat2lrn 15:18:09
WendyTagg #chat2lrn Q2) The generational theories were never valid. Older people   adapted to each technology as it came along, as the young do now. 15:18:14
lorimillercoach Beautitful! RT @zaralynnking: #Chat2lrn I tought my 82 yr old grandpa   to text recently. He is the one that taught me to use a computer. 15:18:21
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn I think we create labels    like generation classifications to better understand our self and   others. It is a way to connect & grow 15:18:23
Marcoable Q2) Are generational theories still relevant today? #chat2lrn < are   we all not more collaborative – typical Gen Y behaviour 15:18:33
alc47 @ColinSteed Senior moment? (sorry!) The ones that say we fit in boxes   – remember now? #Chat2lrn 15:18:49
owenferguson Q2) Depends what is meant by generational theories. I prefer evidence,   backed by research, uncluttered with poor analysis #chat2lrn 15:18:59
ZaraLynnKing @elearningguy Baby steps. It is always Baby Steps #Chat2lrn 15:18:59
npmaven A2 Too many “real life” exceptions to generational theories   for me to take them seriously. Of course, I’m a tech-y Boomer…  🙂 #chat2lrn 15:18:59
olliegardener RT @alc47: @olliegardener but you are never in your personal box! <I   am, it follows me.. a well travelled box    #chat2lrn 15:19:07
elearningguy @lesleywprice Q2) I think we’ve gone past generalization and into   “active pigeon-holing” #chat2lrn 15:19:10
lorimillercoach Embrace reverse mentoring. GenX & Y have lots to share with   Boomers and Si Gen. #chat2lrn 15:19:12
WendyTagg #chat2lrn OK – I’ve just found that doing #chat2lrn and my expenses at   the same time is a multitask too far. 15:19:14
ZaraLynnKing @owenferguson yse but… like “learning styles” recent info   says it is all made up too.  #chat2lrn 15:19:26
alc47 @ZaraLynnKing But if you look at my supposed box it is almost the   opposite of me – so not helpful #Chat2lrn 15:19:34
tomspiglanin @stipton a generalization, but sadly many of my contemporaries don’t   “get” what I do and don’t think they can do what I do. 😦   #chat2lrn 15:19:39
ColinSteed #chat2lrn We should learn from the Native Americans. Their Elders are   held in high esteem and are the font of knowledge and wisdom 🙂 15:19:44
lesleywprice RT @lorimillercoach: Beautitful! RT @zaralynnking: I tought my 82 yr   old grandpa to txt recently. He taught me to use a computer. #chat2lrn 15:19:46
stipton @DrGeenatheories are meant to appl for a group of individuals, but   places single people intodesignated box.    One size fits all. #chat2lrn 15:19:48
megbertapelle MT @alc47: …believe r constraining & diminishing of ppl RT   @lesleywprice:.. <maybe good for some perspective, not pigeon-hole   #chat2lrn 15:19:48
npmaven A2 Funny thing: my most tech-averse students often are younger class   members. #chat2lrn 15:20:10
lesleywprice RT @WendyTagg: #chat2lrn OK – Ive just found that doing #chat2lrn and   my expenses at the same time is a multitask too far <lol! #chat2lrn 15:20:19
elearningguy I’m sure folks have seen this…posted earlier this week?   http://t.co/vgWJQCfi #chat2lrn 15:20:29
owenferguson @ZaraLynnKing Oh, I’m not saying the Gen X/Y stuff is evidence based.   Quite the opposite. #chat2lrn 15:20:32
ColinSteed #chat2lrn @alc47 Is that a theory? 15:20:35
Marcoable @wendytagg #chat2lrn Q2) The generational theories were never valid.   Older ppl adapt to each technology as it comes along < so true 15:20:54
npmaven @megbertapelle That’s my general thinking, too: helps to offer *some*   context, but not taken as rules. (those exceptions…) #chat2lrn 15:21:05
viv_cole @ColinSteed as a youngster I demand the elders earn their respect, not   take it as a given 😉 #chat2lrn 15:21:14
kellygarber Q2 – stating generational theories as a whole? some relevant, some   not.  #chat2lrn 15:21:15
lesleywprice RT @npmaven: A2 Funny thing: my most tech-averse students often are younger class members. < my kids won’t use twitter #wasteoftime #chat2lrn 15:21:18
WendyTagg RT @lorimillercoach: Embrace reverse mentoring. GenX & Y have lots   to share with Boomers and Si Gen. #chat2lrn 15:21:27
alc47 I will second that RT @ColinSteed: learn from Native Americans. Elders   are held high esteem and font of knowledge, wisdom 🙂 #Chat2lrn 15:21:31
elearningguy @zaralynnking I’d agree with that…could we make it concurrent with   more viable alternative considerations? #dreamer #chat2lrn 15:21:40
tomspiglanin RT @npmaven: A2 Funny thing: my most tech-averse students often are   younger class members. #chat2lrn 15:21:53
stipton .@WendyTagg parts of the theory are correct.  If you look at WW2 gen and earlier the   values system hold up. technoogy makes dif #chat2lrn 15:21:56
owenferguson Q2) Organisation still need to manage their demographics, attract   young talent etc – it’s just these theories are no use for that #chat2lrn 15:22:15
ColinSteed #chat2lrn @viv_cole This is where its all gone wrong – respect for   anyone has mostly gone now 15:22:41
lorimillercoach Why labels created. http://t.co/pRu4EeiN    #chat2lrn 15:22:46
elearningguy @tomspiglanin @npmaven Wonder if that’s because they “have* to   use it for learning instead of choosing it for fun? #chat2lrn 15:23:03
lesleywprice RT @lorimillercoach: Why labels created. http://t.co/yHzxzQ1O <tks   Lori! #chat2lrn 15:23:22
alc47 I need respect – I am old RT @ColinSteed: #chat2lrn @viv_cole its all   gone wrong – respect for anyone has mostly gone now #Chat2lrn 15:23:52
niallgavinuk #chat2lrn Going mobile… will try to keep up (this week’s topic not   really resonating for me t.b.h.) Transcript should be interesting tho’ 15:24:05
lesleywprice MT @owenferguson Q2) Orgs still need to manage demographics, attract   young talent  its just these theories   are no use for that #chat2lrn 15:24:22
megbertapelle @elearningguy @tomspiglanin @npmaven good point Mark, much more likely   to resist when “pushed” #chat2lrn 15:24:24
owenferguson The young will be labelled by older generations regardless: “The young people of today think of nothing but themselves.” Aristotle #chat2lrn 15:24:25
tomspiglanin Q2) as younger people enter the workforce, life experiences definitely   different from older. See http://t.co/3zuDV0E6 #chat2lrn 15:24:50
alc47 @niallgavinuk Safe travel and thx of joining anyway #Chat2lrn 15:24:54
megbertapelle MT @alc47: I need respect – I am old RT @ColinSteed: … <we ALL   need respect! not just if you’re old! (& you’re not Nic) #chat2lrn 15:25:00
npmaven @elearningguy “Too much work” (auto-downloading podcast??)   often stated reason. Older like convenience, “human” connection   #chat2lrn 15:25:16
Marcoable RT @lesleywprice @lorimillercoach: Why labels created.   http://t.co/ckwafgRS <tks Lori! #chat2lrn <we are all individuals!   world 2corporate? 15:25:23
chat2lrn Q3) What is there in generational theory that can take us forward in   our work in learning? #chat2lrn 15:25:35
kellygarber Q2 – as each generation ages – predominant characteristics change.   Aging changes us all. #chat2lrn 15:25:38
stipton @owenferguson True fair amount observational behavior theory. studies   tell us as groups of people may respond w/group mentality. #chat2lrn 15:25:56
viv_cole @alc47 everyone needs respect and my default is to give it, but I   won’t do so unquestioningly for long
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lesleywprice RT @chat2lrn: Q3) What is there in generational theory that can take   us forward in our work in learning? #chat2lrn 15:26:07
ColinSteed @alc47 : I need respect – I am old    #Chat2lrn Respect should go both ways! 15:26:15
npmaven A2 Common theme in “generational” class unit from younger:   “Boomers should just curl up & die so we can take over & do it   right”  #chat2lrn 15:26:17
ALAOling RT @kellygarber: Q2 – as each generation ages – predominant   characteristics change. Aging changes us all. #chat2lrn 15:26:19
alc47 @megbertapelle The point I am making is that any kind of label does   not necessarily help – in fact is susceptible to prejudice #Chat2lrn 15:26:19
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn my dad = 53 recently said to me one day you will do all the   thinfgs you said you would never do like your parents it  inevitable 15:26:19
npmaven RT @chat2lrn: Q3) What is there in generational theory that can take   us forward in our work in learning? #chat2lrn 15:26:22
tomspiglanin @elearningguy @npmaven @megbertapelle Suspect you’ve got the right   thinking here, Mark. One sees a game, the other sees a tool #chat2lrn 15:26:22
tomspiglanin RT @chat2lrn: Q3) What is there in generational theory that can take   us forward in our work in learning? #chat2lrn 15:26:34
viv_cole Q3) makes us think about the best way to learn now, not what worked in   the past  #chat2lrn 15:26:35
lesleywprice q3) good question…..I don’t know its a bit like learning styles   there are too many exceptions to the ‘rules’ #chat2lrn 15:26:53
npmaven Q3 < sensitivity to differences (and exceptions). Don’t assume our   way is only way. Respect differences, too. #chat2lrn 15:26:58
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn Gen theory teaches us took look at ourslef and others we   must respect it equally 15:27:01
alc47 RT @ALAOling: RT @kellygarber: Q2 – as each generation ages –   predominant characteristics change. Aging changes us all. #Chat2lrn 15:27:04
olliegardener RT @npmaven: RT @chat2lrn: Q3) What is there in generational theory   that can take us forward in our work in learning? #chat2lrn 15:27:11
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn once we acknowledge each other we can teach and learn more   effectively 15:27:38
stipton YES! RT @tomspiglanin: Q2) as younger people enter workforce, life   exper definitely different from older. http://t.co/nu64MUbs #chat2lrn 15:27:45
olliegardener q3) any model that makes you question your assumptions can be useful,   just don’t hold on to any of them for too long..  #chat2lrn 15:28:12
npmaven RT @tomspiglanin: @elearningguy @npmaven @megbertapelle Suspect you’ve   got right tkg here, Mark. One sees a game, the other a tool #chat2lrn 15:28:13
lorimillercoach Long live flexibility & change! RT @viv_cole: A3) makes us think   about the best way to learn now, not what worked in the past  #chat2lrn 15:28:18
alc47 Q3 Decreasingly much as the supposedly digitally illiterate   generations catch up and move ahead with maturity #Chat2lrn 15:28:31
megbertapelle RT @alc47: @megbertapelle The point …any kind of label does not nec.   help – in fact is susceptible to prejudice<it’s a gd 1 #chat2lrn 15:28:36
Marcoable A3)  #chat2lrn < Gen Y   training continuous, collaborative approach on other levels like leadership,   comms, learning style 15:28:37
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn it is a Yoda thing we need to share the knowledge of the   past to encourage development of the future 15:28:44
WendyTagg RT @chat2lrn: Q3) What is there in generational theory that can take   us forward in our work in learning? #chat2lrn 15:28:52
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: Q3) What is there in generational theory that can take   us forward in our work in learning? #chat2lrn 15:28:54
alc47 Q3 what is important is that the uner 10’s of today do not need to   learn technology – they live it #Chat2lrn 15:29:20
npmaven RT @alc47: Q3 Decreasingly much as the supposedly digitally illiterate   generations catch up and move ahead with maturity #chat2lrn 15:29:22
ZaraLynnKing RT @alc47: Q3 what is important is that the uner 10’s of today do not   need to learn technology – they live it #Chat2lrn 15:29:38
megbertapelle RT @npmaven: Q3 < sensitivity to differences (and exceptions). Dont   assume our way is only way. Respect differences, too.<yes #chat2lrn 15:29:38
lorimillercoach Many applications for gen theory. http://t.co/8et7qVMo #chat2lrn 15:29:42
npmaven 🙂 RT @ZaraLynnKing: #Chat2lrn it is a Yoda thing we need to share the   knowledge of the past to encourage development of future #chat2lrn 15:29:46
ColinSteed #Chat2lrn Q3) Respect – and understanding that age is not a barrier to   usefulness 15:29:54
owenferguson Q3) Not much. It’s a bit different for education where differences in   the developing brain are important #chat2lrn 15:30:17
kellygarber Q3 – gen theory is relevant b/c it is part of the target audience   analysis. theory is a starting point – not a conclusion. #chat2lrn 15:30:20
stipton the work of gen theory falls into the same bucket as learning   styles.  You simply cannot label a   group and apply to individual.    #chat2lrn 15:30:25
npmaven Standing O!  RT @ColinSteed:   #Chat2lrn Q3) Respect – and understanding that age is not a barrier to   usefulness #chat2lrn 15:30:33
elearningguy Hmmm…did Q3 come up already?    I can’t find it in my stream? #chat2lrn 15:30:33
tomspiglanin Q3) Different take on the question, what can we do to avoid   generalizations or at least test them before committing to design? #chat2lrn 15:30:34
viv_cole RT @ColinSteed: #Chat2lrn Q3) Respect – and understanding that age is   not a barrier to usefulness #chat2lrn 15:30:37
lesleywprice RT @alc47: Q3 what is important is that the under 10s of today do not   need to learn technology – they live it #chat2lrn 15:30:42
lorimillercoach A3 Use defining & guiding values of each gen to promote gr8r   understanding. #chat2lrn 15:31:07
tomspiglanin MT @kellygarber: Q3 – gen theory is relevant b/c is part of target   audience analysis. theory is starting point – not a conclusion #chat2lrn 15:31:14
alc47 @kellygarber And if it no longer fits the target audience – what use?   #Chat2lrn 15:31:14
lorimillercoach RT @npmaven: Standing O!  RT   @ColinSteed: #Chat2lrn Q3) Respect – and understanding that age is not a   barrier to usefulness #chat2lrn 15:31:28
tomspiglanin MT @stipton: work of gen theory falls into same bucket as learning styles.  simply cannot label a group and apply to   individual.  #chat2lrn 15:31:55
elearningguy Problem with system, not tech RT @megbertapelle @tomspiglanin @npmaven   good point Mark, much more likely to resist when “pushed” #chat2lrn 15:31:57
megbertapelle MT @tomspiglanin: MT @kellygarber: Q3 – … theory is starting point –   not a conclusion <exactly! #chat2lrn 15:32:04
owenferguson @kellygarber but what do you do differently with that demographic   information? #chat2lrn 15:32:28
olliegardener “U r all individuals” “Yes. We’re all individuals”   “U r all different” “Yes. We’re all different – I’m not!   shh..” Life of Brian #chat2lrn 15:32:29
megbertapelle @elearningguy Q3) What is there in generational theory that can take   us forward in our work in learning? 🙂 #chat2lrn 15:32:38
WendyTagg #chat2lrn Q3) To be honest, I don’t really think the generational   theories are valid – not if we band by age, anyway. 15:32:41
alc47 @lorimillercoach You are only right if you believe that the gens have   generally applicable guiding values! #Chat2lrn 15:32:42
stipton Key is understanding your audience. We fail learner when we assume cuz   they are an X’er or boomer that they expect certain things. #chat2lrn 15:32:44
kellygarber If not a 80/20 fit …using the wrong theory RT @alc47: @kellygarber   And if it no longer fits the target audience – what use? #chat2lrn 15:32:58
elearningguy Q3) I don’t think we should make the assumption that young lrnrs ALL   “live” tech.  Some families   may push back and go “old school” #chat2lrn 15:33:13
lorimillercoach RT @lorimillercoach: Use defining & guiding values to promote gr8r   understanding.  http://t.co/8et7qVMo   #chat2lrn 15:33:18
tomspiglanin Q3) Generalizations of generations (as @kellygarber said) is a   starting point. Stimulates thought, critical design thinking. #chat2lrn 15:33:34
owenferguson RT @stipton: gen theory falls into the same bucket as learning   styles.  You simply cannot label a   group and apply to individual.    #chat2lrn 15:33:42
alc47 @stipton We actually fail if we try to put people into boxes!   #Chat2lrn 15:33:45
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn the gen theory really is based on the culture and society   you are raised in. if you have innovative parents you are more flexible 15:33:50
kellygarber analysis results determines a lot. RT @owenferguson @kellygarber but   what do you do differently with that demographic information? #chat2lrn 15:34:04
megbertapelle Q3) maybe the theories can just be a starting point for what questions   to ask your audience – before you really get into design #chat2lrn 15:34:05
olliegardener @lesleywprice Depends on the tech surely.. my grandfather   “lived” mechanics – I wouldnt know which end of the car to start   looking #chat2lrn 15:34:10
tomspiglanin MT @stipton: Key is understanding audience. We fail learner when   assume cuz they are an Xer or boomer they expect certain things. #chat2lrn 15:34:19
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn you’re raised in non tech home in 2010’s you are not as   advanced as others. 15:34:24
stipton As L&D peeps, we need to do research & understand theories,   doesn’t mean we apply them with a a giant paint brush to all we meet.   #chat2lrn 15:34:41
alc47 @elearningguy They are all good with a mobile – and that is not a   generalisation #Chat2lrn 15:34:46
WendyTagg @elearningguy Q3) agreed – also, sadly, not all families can afford   the tech. #chat2lrn 15:35:04
ZaraLynnKing @olliegardener  but i bet your   not afraid to try to fix repair or explore #chat2lrn 15:35:11
elearningguy Q3) I think the fact that learners are products of their times and the   environment are key considerations…also, culture #chat2lrn 15:35:12
elearningguy Define “advanced”? RT @zaralynnking: #Chat2lrn you’re raised   in non tech home in 2010’s you are not as advanced as others. #devilsadvocate 15:35:43
lesleywprice MT @stipton: As L&D peeps, we research & understand theories,   doesnt mean we apply them with a giant paint brush <so true #chat2lrn 15:35:50
kellygarber RT @megbertapelle: Q3) … theories as a starting point 4 what   questions to ask your audience – before you really get into design #chat2lrn 15:35:51
alc47 Agree RT @stipton: Key is understanding audience. We fail learner when   assume they Xer or boomer they expect certain things. #Chat2lrn 15:36:02
megbertapelle @ZaraLynnKing or if ur parents limit ur “screen time” like I   do w/my daughter, maybe u r behind others. I want her to play! #chat2lrn 15:36:10
owenferguson Q3) Good analysis and design is good analysis and design. Learning   styles, gen theory, MBTI … they’re all just distractions #chat2lrn 15:36:21
Bellsdad RT @lesleywprice: RT @alc47: Q3 what is important is that the under   10s of today do not need to learn technology – they live it #chat2lrn 15:36:24
lorimillercoach Promote individuality. Recognize similarities. RT @alc47: @stipton We   actually fail if we try to put people into boxes! #Chat2lrn 15:36:35
chat2lrn Q4) Do generational theories constrain our thinking? #chat2lrn 15:36:51
tomspiglanin This morning stuck on mobile, couldn’t access PLN or #chat2lrn for a   bit. Ironic had been at #mLearnCon last few days. Connection required. 15:37:05
tomspiglanin RT @chat2lrn: Q4) Do generational theories constrain our thinking?   #chat2lrn 15:37:12
WendyTagg Q3) The only thing that I can dredge out is embracing different levels   of experience regardless of age (nods to @lorimillercoach ) #chat2lrn 15:37:12
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: Q4) Do generational theories constrain our thinking?   #chat2lrn 15:37:22
lorimillercoach Is this how we measure “advanced”? RT @zaralynnking: #Chat2lrn   you’re raised in non tech home in 2010’s you are not as advanced as others. 15:37:24
lesleywprice RT @chat2lrn: Q4) Do generational theories constrain our thinking?   #chat2lrn 15:37:29
npmaven To the extend that we cling to them as rules…  RT @chat2lrn: Q4) Do generational theories   constrain our thinking? #chat2lrn 15:37:42
megbertapelle MT @lorimillercoach: Promote individuality. Recognize similarities. RT   @alc47: @stipton We fail if try to put people into boxes! #chat2lrn 15:37:46
ZaraLynnKing @elearningguy most tweens i know can pic up an iphone &GO if   you’re from a 3rd world may no have the opp lower skill level #Chat2lrn 15:37:54
elearningguy @alc47 Dunno, Nic, I think there’s a blanket consideration there. They   may be good at using mobi, but “leverage” is something else   #chat2lrn 15:37:57
Marcoable Q4) Do generational theories constrain our thinking? #chat2lrn < No   I believe cost does.. 15:38:08
WendyTagg RT @chat2lrn: Q4) Do generational theories constrain our thinking? #chat2lrn 15:38:20
megbertapelle @tomspiglanin r u home now Tom? #chat2lrn 15:38:21
tomspiglanin Q4) Do generational theories constrain our thinking? We can’t let that   happen! But they can be a starting point. Flex the design. #chat2lrn 15:38:29
ZaraLynnKing @megbertapelle totally agree! need healthy play. and diversity  #chat2lrn 15:38:32
olliegardener @ZaraLynnKing that may well b true (= burned fingers), but that tech I   have 2 learn. I dont “live” all (e.g. mechanical) tech.  #chat2lrn 15:38:35
kellygarber Q4 just b/c a theory doesn’t match what you see in your bubble …asL&D,   it is about your target audience – their bubble. #chat2lrn 15:38:35
stipton @megbertapelle Play time is always good time!  Doesn’t mean she’s behind, maybe that her   learning is more quality… #chat2lrn 15:38:38
alc47 Q4 Yes – and they risk distorting it as well. Boxing people shows them   no respect. I am old enough to have lived the gender debate #Chat2lrn 15:38:40
megbertapelle @ZaraLynnKing I think most ppl can pick up i phone &go #chat2lrn 15:38:43
lesleywprice q4) I think they makes it easy to slip into the trap of making   assumptions about people #chat2lrn 15:39:08
ZaraLynnKing @megbertapelle let me clarify.    #chat2lrn 15:39:08
owenferguson Q4) Yup. They encourage us to oversimplify and ignore diversity and   complexity. #chat2lrn 15:39:11
viv_cole Q4) possibly – but is it more that time pressure encourages us to   generalise rather than analyse properly? #chat2lrn 15:39:17
megbertapelle @stipton I can hope! 🙂 #chat2lrn 15:39:39
elearningguy @zaralynnking Agreed..by gut tells me that’s   “system”-driven, not tech. 3rd world learners may not be educated   but may be smart #chat2lrn 15:39:40
tomspiglanin @megbertapelle in L.A., at work today! Much to do after #chat2lrn –   fab meeting up with you, @pattishank and others. Made new friends. 15:39:52
lesleywprice RT  q4) I think they makes it   easy to slip into the trap of making assumptions about people <just like   learning styles! #chat2lrn 15:39:55
alc47 Now we are talking RT @ZaraLynnKing: @megbertapelle totally agree!   need healthy play. and diversity    #Chat2lrn 15:40:10
MJK60631 RT @chat2lrn: Q4) Do generational theories constrain our thinking?   #chat2lrn 15:40:11
olliegardener q4) only if you hold on to it for too long. Knowing about it doesn’t   mean you have to thing that’s all there is..    #chat2lrn 15:40:22
megbertapelle MT @lesleywprice: q4) …make it easy to slip into trap of making   assumptions abt people <human nature, we need to fight it! 🙂 #chat2lrn 15:40:24
WendyTagg #chat2lrn Q4) In spite of continually fighting it, I find my   expectations are coloured by generational theories. 15:40:53
megbertapelle @tomspiglanin good! 🙂 glad to have met you in person! 😀  #chat2lrn 15:40:54
alc47 @elearningguy 3rd world learners will put most of us in the shade with   their skills on mobile! #Chat2lrn 15:41:07
lorimillercoach A4) Gen theory xpands thinking. Reinforces not all gens alike. It’s a   good thing. #chat2lrn 15:41:13
elearningguy YES!! RT @tomspiglanin: Q4) Do theories constrain thinking? We can’t   let that happen! Bt they can be starting pt. Flex the design. #chat2lrn 15:41:19
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn our friend and home life shape our personalities at a young   age. You naturally have advantages and disadvantages over peers 15:41:23
lesleywprice q4) don’t think the media help …as they constantly refer to boomers,   gen x and gen y #chat2lrn 15:41:39
kellygarber it isn’t the theory, style, or study that is at fault – these are just   tools. #chat2lrn 15:42:00
stipton Gen thinking will hinder you if is the sole baseline to your   work.  Boss thought design work to   based on generation. #fail #chat2lrn 15:42:03
megbertapelle @ZaraLynnKing hehe 🙂 I get your point though, have access, become comfy   w/tech – no access, not comfy #chat2lrn 15:42:07
elearningguy @alc47 Social learning in action, I think. Success in spite of a weak   Ed. system #chat2lrn 15:42:10
alc47 Yes! RT @lesleywprice: RT  q4)   easy to slip into the trap of making assumptions about people <just like   learning styles! #Chat2lrn 15:42:11
olliegardener RT @tomspiglanin: Q4) Do gen theories constrain thinking? cant let   that happen! But they can be a starting point. Flex the design. #chat2lrn 15:42:36
lorimillercoach So true! RT @alc47: @elearningguy 3rd world learners will put most of   us in the shade with their skills on mobile! #Chat2lrn 15:42:39
elearningguy RT @lesleywprice: RT  q4) I   think they make it easy to slip into the trap of making assumptions abt   people <like learning styles! #chat2lrn 15:42:41
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn with generational theory home life appiles in shaping us. we   will be like or not like the generation based on where we come from 15:42:45
alc47 Who says the media u’stand? RT @lesleywprice: q4) dont think media   help …as they constantly refer to boomers, gen x and gen y #Chat2lrn 15:42:49
owenferguson Who would have more in common, a room of Gen Y accountants &Gen X   accountants, or Gen Y accountants &Gen Y ballet dancers? #chat2lrn 15:42:58
alc47 Precisely! RT @elearningguy: @alc47 Social learning in action, I   think. Success in spite of a weak Ed. system #Chat2lrn 15:43:19
ZaraLynnKing @megbertapelle  got myself in a   funny circle there #chat2lrn 15:43:22
megbertapelle @alc47 @lesleyprice but again, learning “styles” really just   a TRIGGER to think abt providing multiple modes &reinforcement #chat2lrn 15:43:26
stipton RT @ZaraLynnKing: #Chat2lrn our friends, home life shape personalities   at young age. naturally have advantages &disadvantages over peers 15:43:27
kellygarber @lesleywprice it is this kind of media exposure that challenges those   that conduct studies to continually reevaluate theory. ? #chat2lrn 15:43:35
ZaraLynnKing Now for question 4 RT @chat2lrn: Q4) Do generational theories   constrain our thinking? #chat2lrn 15:43:36
tomspiglanin Q4) Nothing should constrain our thinking. That’s why we call it   critical or creative thinking. Narrow-mindedness is a #fail. #chat2lrn 15:43:55
ColinSteed #chat2lrn RT Yes! RT alc47 @lesleywprice: RT q4) easy to slip into the   trap of making assumptions about people<like learning styles! <Def! 15:44:09
lorimillercoach LOL..it’s us!?! RT @kellygarber: it isn’t the theory, style, or study   that is at fault – these are just tools. #chat2lrn 15:44:10
lesleywprice @alc47 don’t think the media understand….they just keep writing   about it #chat2lrn 15:44:12
megbertapelle @ZaraLynnKing hahaha it’s OK we’re “thinking out loud”   around here 🙂 #chat2lrn 15:44:12
alc47 @megbertapelle Good point – all these things help us look at the   complexity of the individual and to understand #Chat2lrn 15:44:47
stipton @lesleywprice Apple is worst at it.    Let’s see diversity in age.    Boomers &Seniors aren’t just interested in life insurance.   #chat2lrn 15:44:57
lesleywprice @kellygarber not sure Kelly….I like the work that has been done on   Digital visitors and residents…makes more sense to me #chat2lrn 15:45:04
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn i think that it will only constrain if it is a literal   interpretation. 15:45:06
megbertapelle it sure is! RT @lorimillercoach: LOL..its us!?! RT @kellygarber: it   isnt theory, style, or study at fault – these are just tools. #chat2lrn 15:45:07
elearningguy At our RCAF school, we have mixed ages of new techs. GenLearning is a   consideration, but more abt mindset &maturity &teamwork #chat2lrn 15:45:07
olliegardener Cool Q: RT @owenferguson: Who’d have more in common, a room of Gen Y &Gen   X accountants, or Gen Y accountants &ballet dancers? #chat2lrn 15:46:14
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn Media labels and numbers us because they want shock value.   they don’t care about meaning or interpretation it is SPIN! 15:46:25
elearningguy Is GenLearning really a “collective constructivism”? Each Generation   creating its own reality about “back in my day”? #chat2lrn #idea 15:46:37
megbertapelle RT @elearningguy: …we have mixed ages of new techs. GenLearning a   consideration, but more abt mindset &maturity &teamwork <yes   #chat2lrn 15:46:41
chat2lrn Q5) What will be the impact, if any, if generational theory does not   adapt to the current environment? #chat2lrn 15:46:51
olliegardener RT @tomspiglanin: Q4) Thats why we call it critical or creative   thinking. Narrow-mindedness is a #fail. #chat2lrn 15:47:12
ZaraLynnKing perhaps? RT @elearningguy: Is GenLearning really a “collective   constructivism”? Each creating    reality about “back in my day”? #chat2lrn 15:47:23
tomspiglanin @LambertJay is new to my Twitter stream. He has much good to say and a   good follow, #chat2lrn -ers. 15:47:25
lesleywprice RT @ZaraLynnKing:Media labels &numbers us because they want shock   value.  dont care about meaning or   interpretation it is SPIN! #chat2lrn 15:47:25
alc47 @lesleywprice But is mobile literacy a greater or lesser attribute   than computer literacy – digital literacy is another box #Chat2lrn 15:47:27
elearningguy RT @chat2lrn: Q5) What will be the impact, if any, if generational   theory does not adapt to the current environment? #chat2lrn 15:47:30
lesleywprice RT @chat2lrn: Q5) What will be the impact, if any, if generational   theory does not adapt to the current environment? #chat2lrn 15:47:31
tomspiglanin RT @chat2lrn: Q5) What will be the impact, if any, if generational   theory does not adapt to the current environment? #chat2lrn 15:47:51
stipton gen theory &learning styles become crutches we seem to fall back   on as a substitute for proper research on real learning needs. #chat2lrn 15:48:00
kellygarber @lorimillercoach well …yes. If we disregard studies and/or blindly   use them as all inclusive facts. #chat2lrn 15:48:07
elearningguy Q5) I think it will linger…like Cone of Experience and Learning   Styles. It may never die out. #chat2lrn 15:48:10
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn don’t think it matters if a gen theory doesn’t adapt. All   need to adapt no matter what. 15:48:15
tomspiglanin Q5) Generational theory doesn’t need to adapt. We need to adapt   it.  #chat2lrn 15:48:39
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: Q5) What will be the impact, if any, if generational   theory does not adapt to the current environment? #chat2lrn 15:48:39
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn without growth there is not forward momentum just stagnant   water. 15:48:48
lesleywprice RT @elearningguy: Q5) I think it will linger…like Cone of Experience   and Learning Styles. It may never die out. <sigh 😦 #chat2lrn 15:48:48
stipton RT @chat2lrn: Q5) What will be the impact, if any, if generational   theory does not adapt to the current environment? #chat2lrn 15:48:53
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn Stagnant water attracts mosquitoes and that is very bad. 15:49:15
tomspiglanin RT @ZaraLynnKing: #Chat2lrn dont think it matters if a gen theory   doesnt adapt. All need to adapt no matter what. <my thought too #chat2lrn 15:49:26
npmaven Gen theories like any stereotype: they persist because we can   (usually) find some element of truth… #chat2lrn 15:49:28
lesleywprice RT @ZaraLynnKing: #Chat2lrn Stagnant water attracts mosquitoes and   that is very bad. #chat2lrn 15:49:40
WendyTagg RT @chat2lrn: Q5) What will be the impact, if any, if generational   theory does not adapt to the current environment? #chat2lrn 15:49:41
viv_cole RT @elearningguy: spot on! Q5) I think Gen theory will linger…like   Cone of Experience and Learning Styles. It may never die out. #chat2lrn 15:49:43
ZaraLynnKing RT @npmaven: Gen theories like any stereotype: they persist because we   can (usually) find some element of truth… #chat2lrn 15:49:44
megbertapelle RT @ZaraLynnKing: #Chat2lrn without growth there is not forward   momentum just stagnant water. #chat2lrn 15:50:10
npmaven …(That we then abuse as iron-clad rules). But doesn’t mean there’s   no merit.  Using to expand thinking,   ask, compare=value. #chat2lrn 15:50:19
megbertapelle RT @npmaven: Gen theories like any stereotype: they persist because we   can (usually) find some element of truth… #chat2lrn 15:50:20
alc47 Q5 there used to be a well accepted theory that the earth was flat   #Chat2lrn 15:50:32
tomspiglanin Oh, TweetChat, don’t fail me now!    #chat2lrn 15:50:43
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn Perhaps a sociologist soon with get rid of Gen Theory and   call it something else. It is about remembering and moving forward. 15:50:48
ColinSteed #chat2lrn Q5) Isn’t is a human nature habit to put labels on things   which everyone follows? I cant see that changing eg Learning Styles, 15:50:49
stipton totally agree!  Great point! RT   @tomspiglanin: Q5) Generational theory doesn’t need to adapt. We need to   adapt it.  #chat2lrn 15:50:52
owenferguson Q5) Like most domains, gen theory will get more nuanced, useful and   ignored as time goes on. The myths are what will persist. #chat2lrn 15:50:57
MJK60631 Q4) Preconceived notions of abilities are introduced before   individuals can demonstrate who they are &what they’re capable of.   #chat2lrn 15:51:21
lesleywprice RT @alc47: Q5 there used to be a well accepted theory that the earth   was flat <like that one 🙂 #chat2lrn 15:51:23
kellygarber Q5 – generational theory does adapt, as each generation ages its   identity evolves #chat2lrn 15:51:26
alc47 Q5 persisting with out of date science leads to wrong and ultimately   harmful actions. Beware #Chat2lrn 15:51:45
megbertapelle RT @kellygarber: Q5 – generational theory does adapt, as each   generation ages its identity evolves #chat2lrn 15:52:17
ColinSteed RT @alc47: Q5 there used to be a well accepted theory that the earth   was flat <like that one 🙂 #chat2lrn <and Learning Styles exist! 15:52:24
stipton @npmaven very true.  As said in   blog there is truth to the theory, but time and technology is forcing to view   in different way. #chat2lrn 15:52:25
alc47 @kellygarber But the theory is not updating its characterisation of   existing generations – see the blog! #Chat2lrn 15:52:29
npmaven RT @owenferguson: Like most domains, gen theory will get more nuanced,   useful, ignored as time goes on. myths what will persist. #chat2lrn 15:52:33
ZaraLynnKing #Chat2lrn Attend last year excellent talk abt Generations in the   Trucking Industry it was GREAT! Dan Baker the speaker http://t.co/36oJpluZ 15:52:34
megbertapelle @alc47 but just because it’s old doesn’t mean it’s wrong, just keep in   mind that things may have changed #chat2lrn 15:52:55
lorimillercoach See! Flexibility. Change. Critical! RT @alc47: Q5 there used to be a   well accepted theory that the earth was flat #Chat2lrn 15:53:00
WendyTagg #chat2lrn Q5) We will fail to support the real needs of learners   because we are working from bad assumptions 15:53:00
olliegardener @chat2lrn It’s just a lens. When it gives a clearer pict use it, if   not -discard. Swap regularly or u’ll crash into a lamp post 🙂 #chat2lrn 15:53:01
Marcoable RT @stipton A5) Generational theory doesn’t need to adapt. We need to   adapt it. #chat2lrn < so true – individuals will find their own way 15:53:03
lesleywprice RT @ColinSteed: RT @alc47: Q5 there used to be a well accepted theory   that the earth was flat <and Learning Styles exist! #chat2lrn 15:53:06
viv_cole is e-learning industry guilty of pushing myth that gen Y loved   self-paced e-learning tho buyers could see it was poorly designed? #chat2lrn 15:53:11
lorimillercoach RT @megbertapelle: RT @ZaraLynnKing: #Chat2lrn without growth there is   not forward momentum just stagnant water. #chat2lrn 15:53:19
megbertapelle RT @ZaraLynnKing: …excellent talk abt Generations in the Trucking   Industry it was GREAT! Dan Baker spkr http://t.co/dHm5UrY0 #chat2lrn 15:53:44
alc47 @megbertapelle So chats like this are good fro affirming or otherwise   it’s validity #Chat2lrn 15:53:51
stipton as the saying goes, either adapt with the curve or drive off the edge   of the cliff.  #chat2lrn 15:54:05
lorimillercoach Balanced life = growth and movement. #chat2lrn 15:54:10
lesleywprice MT @viv_cole: is e-learning industry guilty of pushing myth that gen Y   loved self-paced e-learning tho buyers can see poor design #chat2lrn 15:54:16
ZaraLynnKing RT @stipton: as the saying goes, either adapt with the curve or drive   off the edge of the cliff.  #chat2lrn 15:54:31
ZaraLynnKing RT @lorimillercoach: Balanced life = growth and movement. #chat2lrn 15:54:39
megbertapelle @alc47 why I love twitter chats with smart people 🙂 like  #chat2lrn 15:54:48
lorimillercoach Gott run. My first time on this chat. Loved it! Ur all gr8 &thoughtful.   #chat2lrn 15:54:51
chat2lrn Q6) Do we need to drive out generational misconceptions and if so how?   #chat2lrn 15:54:53
olliegardener RT @ColinSteed: RT @alc47: Q5 there used to be a well accepted theory   that the earth was flat  😀 #chat2lrn 15:55:13
kellygarber @alc47 I did my homework, I did see/read the blog. I just don’t agree   with the assessment. #chat2lrn 15:55:16
tomspiglanin Thanks for joining! RT @lorimillercoach: Gott run. My first time on   this chat. Loved it! Ur all gr8 &thoughtful. #chat2lrn 15:55:30
megbertapelle @lorimillercoach thanks for joining Lori! 🙂 #chat2lrn 15:55:33
tomspiglanin RT @chat2lrn: Q6) Do we need to drive out generational misconceptions   and if so how? #chat2lrn 15:55:37
Marcoable #chat2lrn Gotta fly, thanks Guys great chat!! 15:56:08
lesleywprice RT @chat2lrn: Q6) Do we need to drive out generational misconceptions   and if so how? #chat2lrn 15:56:15
alc47 Q6 By treating each person as an individual – with respect! #Chat2lrn 15:56:20
equusnyder RT @tomspiglanin: This morning stuck on mobile, couldn’t access PLN or   #chat2lrn for a bit. Ironic had been at #mLearnCon last few days. Connection   required. 15:56:30
ColinSteed @viv_cole Think e-learning industry marketers responsible for a lot of   GenX,Y,Z etc attention span myths #chat2lrn 15:56:30
WendyTagg RT @chat2lrn: Q6) Do we need to drive out generational misconceptions   and if so how? #chat2lrn 15:56:43
viv_cole Q6) talk to as many learners as you can and seek out a healthy dose of   people who have different life experiences to you #chat2lrn 15:56:45
alc47 @ColinSteed Oooohhhhhh! #Chat2lrn 15:57:16
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: Q6) Do we need to drive out generational misconceptions   and if so how? #chat2lrn 15:57:37
lesleywprice RT @ColinSteed: @viv_cole Think e-learning industry marketers   responsible for a lot of GenX,Y,Z etc attention span myths <me too!   #chat2lrn 15:57:41
megbertapelle RT @alc47: Q6 By treating each person as an individual – with respect!   #chat2lrn 15:58:02
stipton @viv_cole poorly designed elearning doesn’t work. It’s makes those who   are new to it hate it, &those that aren’t still hate it. #chat2lrn 15:58:19
lorimillercoach A6 If we all focus on acceptance, understanding, and allowing, then   that will be our reality. #chat2lrn 15:58:19
kellygarber Q6: By not using any theory as an analysis shortcut. #chat2lrn 15:58:37
tomspiglanin Q6) How do you drive out generational misconceptions? Can we? Or do we   just fight the good fight? #DonQuixote #chat2lrn 15:58:41
ColinSteed #chat2lrn Q6) We do – but we won’t be able to – so just get on with it   🙂 15:58:44
megbertapelle Twitter crashed!! LOL #Chat2Lrn 16:02:34
lesleywprice Sorry folks…..having problems with twitter #chat2lrn 16:08:57
tomspiglanin @lesleywprice @megbertapelle The Twitter crashed. I guess that ends   #chat2lrn 16:54:08
megbertapelle Twitter Status http://t.co/aOYjnT7H via @twitter #chat2lrn 17:14:38
WendyTagg #chat2lrn Q6) Yes. Otherwise we are building on something false. How?   Find and highlight the good research + personal reality checks. 17:14:43
WendyTagg @lesleywprice and @megbertapelle I think #chat2lrn broke twitter. 17:23:37
chat2lrn Hi folks…sorry for abrupt end to #chat2lrn..was it us that broke   Tiwtter? lol!! 17:25:37
chat2lrn No chat on 5th July because of US Ind Day celebrations join us 12/7   16.00BST/11.00EDT to talk about “intrapreneurship” #chat2lrn 17:26:33
owenferguson Thanks to everyone in that slightly foreshortened #chat2lrn. A   stimulating discussion as always. 17:26:45
LambertJay Thanks, Tom! Likewise RT @tomspiglanin @LambertJay is new to my   Twitter stream. He has much good to say and a good follow, #chat2lrn -ers. 17:27:23
chat2lrn Because of Twitter #fail no take away time but pse share your   throughts  http://t.co/KV4aL9My  #chat2lrn 17:28:06
lesleywprice Was it #chat2lrn that broke Twitter…maybe they didn’t like what we   were saying about ‘generational boxes’ lol!! 17:30:41
tomspiglanin @LnDDave Twitter up then down, now up. Hmmm. 2012 June 21 16:02GMT the   hour the Earth stood still. #mLearnCon #chat2lrn 17:30:55
lesleywprice RT @WendyTagg: @lesleywprice and @megbertapelle I think #chat2lrn   broke twitter <ssshhhh don’t tell anyone lol!! 17:31:21
lesleywprice RT @chat2lrn: Tks to all who joined in chat and special tks to   @stipton for raising the topic and writing the blog #chat2lrn 17:32:31
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: Because of Twitter #fail no take away time but pse share   your throughts    http://t.co/KV4aL9My  #chat2lrn 17:34:10
megbertapelle whew! looks like we’re back! thanks to #chat2lrn participants this   morning for lively interesting chat! 🙂 17:35:22
megbertapelle @lesleywprice @connectedchris email us too! #chat2lrn (what’s it   called again?) 17:42:24
lesleywprice #chat2lrn came to abrupt ending due to Twitter #fail hope normal   service resumes for #swchat this evening! 18:19:40
niallgavinuk “@chat2lrn: Hi folks…sorry for abrupt end to #chat2lrn..was it   us that broke Tiwtter? lol!!” << Explains why I cdn’t rejoin in   mobile. 19:23:47
pmtrainer Couldn’t have said it better! << Age Ain’t Nothing but a Number:   Debunking Generational Myths http://t.co/2nwkbIAE @stipton #chat2lrn 19:57:46
lorimillercoach More food for thought… Name the Next Gen.
#chat2lrn http://t.co/0wrfR32z
20:00:49
olliegardener Please note: Next #chat2lrn in 3 .. i repeat.. THREE.. weeks time (due   to US hols).. topic: intrapreneurship. #chat2lrn 20:02:17
megbertapelle MT @Alanjerram: …if the make-up of ppl is v GenY/2000 they are   ALREADY social, &perhaps biz is scared of this? #SocIntr #chat2lrn   #swchat 20:27:45
megbertapelle @Alanjerram we just had discussion today abt generational theories,   seems the consensus was be careful abt stereotyping! #chat2lrn #swchat 20:29:29
lesleywprice MT@megbertapelle: @Alanjerram we had discussion today abt generational   theories consensus be careful abt stereotyping! #chat2lrn #swchat 20:30:42
GenXFilm RT @WendyTagg: RT @lorimillercoach: Embrace reverse mentoring. GenX &Y   have lots to share with Boomers and Si Gen. #chat2lrn 21:01:02

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