Transcript 2/08/2012 – Training Departments in 2020

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chat2lrn Welcome to #chat2lrn! Today’s   discussion is about what training departments will be doing in 2020   http://t.co/k9q7ufBl  15:00:50
dawnjmahoney Checking in to #chat2lrn NOW Nbr of   tweets might go up!  15:00:54
pattishank Hi everyone. So glad to see you here.   #chat2lrn  15:01:04
olliegardener @owenferguson Hey Owen. *wave* Glad   you could join us 🙂  #chat2lrn  15:01:07
chat2lrn Please include Q# in related   responses, so that others can follow your trail of thought. #chat2lrn  15:01:32
KristiBroom RT @chat2lrn: Welcome to #chat2lrn! Today’s   discussion is about what training depts will be doing in 2020   http://t.co/VdnYAOje #chat2lrn  15:01:32
tomspiglanin Hello @JudithELS @pattishank   @KristiBroom @megbertapelle @lesleywprice @dawnjmahoney and all others here   at  #chat2lrn  15:01:35
lesleywprice RT @chat2lrn: Welcome #chat2lrn! Today’s   discussion is about what training departments will be doing in 2020   http://t.co/oUvTIumd #chat2lrn  15:01:47
JudithELS RT @chat2lrn: Welcome 2 #chat2lrn Today’s discussion is about what training departments will be doing in 2020 http://t.co/crAXWlqM #chat2lrn  15:02:07
owenferguson @olliegardener always a pleasure to   join in when I get the chance 🙂 #chat2lrn  15:02:09
KristiBroom Hi! RT @tomspiglanin: Hello   @JudithELS @pattishank @KristiBroom @megbertapelle @lesleywprice   @dawnjmahoney and all others here at    #chat2lrn  15:02:17
chat2lrn Q0) Please introduce yourself: who   are you, where are you, what do you do &what brings you here? #chat2lrn  15:02:21
lesleywprice Hi folks *waves* #chat2lrn  15:02:35
JudithELS @tomspiglanin Hi Tom, great to see   you again here #chat2lrn  15:02:39
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: Welcome to #chat2lrn! Today’s   discussion is about what training departments will be doing in 2020   http://t.co/k9q7ufBl  15:02:39
olliegardener RT @chat2lrn: Welcome 2 #chat2lrn! Today’s   discussion is about what training departments will b doing in 2020   http://t.co/xxAQWpkf #chat2lrn  15:02:40
pattishank RT @chat2lrn: Q0) Please introduce   yourself: who are you, where are you, what do you do &what brings you   here? #chat2lrn  15:02:53
lesleywprice @owenferguson Great that   @JamesMcLuckie is now a Fellow of LPI 🙂 #chat2lrn  15:03:22
megbertapelle Q0) Meg Bertapelle, Instructional   Designer at Intuitive Surgical (btw, looking for intern AND Instructional   Design Mgr) #chat2lrn  15:03:31
megbertapelle hi everyone! I’ve missed you! 🙂   #chat2lrn  15:03:44
owenferguson Q0) Owen from @goodpractice, joining   from my desk in *almost* sunny Edinburgh #chat2lrn  15:03:59
StevePL303 Steve Madsen here, consult and run   groups on LinkedIn
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JudithELS RT @lesleywprice: @owenferguson Great   that @JamesMcLuckie is now a Fellow of LPI 🙂 <Congrats to James   #chat2lrn  15:04:12
pattishank Q0) Patti Shank, learning analyst,   Denver, CO, here to learn from others… and I always do. #chat2lrn  15:04:20
megbertapelle Q0) I’m here to chat about the future   of training/L&D with all my super-smart tweeps! #chat2lrn  15:04:42
owenferguson @lesleywprice absolutely – we’re very   proud 🙂 … he’ll be insufferable now 😉 #chat2lrn  15:04:43
alc47 Q0 Nic Laycock, Team GB – sorry   Somerset UK – desperate to get L&D to recognise real value #Chat2lrn  15:04:49
tomspiglanin Q0) Tom Spiglanin, living large in So   California, working on strategies and programs to help people learn and   perform better. #chat2lrn  15:04:50
KristiBroom Q0) Kristi Broom, Minneapolis MN,   looking for next opportunity in social learning/learning technology. Glad to   be here! #chat2lrn  15:04:52
pmtrainer Hi everyone I’ll be watching from the   sidelines today #chat2lrn. Hi Tom Dawn Meg Lesley Patti and all others 🙂  15:04:58
lesleywprice Q0) Lesley Price, work at Learning   and Performance Inst. Had a similar discussion at our LDN meeting last week   #changingtimes #chat2lrn  15:05:06
tomspiglanin 🙂 +100 RT @pattishank: Q0) Patti   Shank, learning analyst, Denver, CO, here to learn from others… and I   always do. #chat2lrn  15:05:06
pattishank @StevePL303 Hiya Steve… Looking   forward to your insights. #chat2lrn  15:05:09
ZaraLynnKing HI it is Zara how does the day go???   #Chat2lrn  15:05:37
JudithELS Q0) Judith Christian-Carter, all   things learning, hoping to get ideas for helping training folk.  #chat2lrn  15:05:40
ExpertusONE To infinity &beyond! @chat2lrn   crew is looking ahead to Training 2020. I’m KK &I’m going along. Join us   now http://t.co/ZTz8tEPg #chat2lrn  15:05:57
olliegardener q0) Joining from Cardiff. I   co-founded @noddlepod. Passionate about exploring the connections btw peoples   work &learning. #chat2lrn  15:06:14
pattishank @tomspiglanin I always learn a lot   from you… so glad you are here. Bummed to miss your session but I read the   transcript. #chat2lrn  15:06:25
StevePL303 as I do from all these wonderful   experts!
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chat2lrn Q1) What decade is your company’s/client’s   training stuck in? Why? #chat2lrn  15:06:49
lesleywprice @ZaraLynnKing  Hey Zara *waves* #chat2lrn  15:07:03
pattishank @pmtrainer Hi!!! So glad to see you!   #chat2lrn  15:07:10
lesleywprice RT @chat2lrn: Q1) What decade is your   company’s/client’s training stuck in? Why? #chat2lrn  15:07:26
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn Well most of it is 1990 but   we are moving into 2010 with some of it.  15:07:26
tomspiglanin MT @ExpertusONE: To infinity &beyond!   @chat2lrn crew looking ahead to Training 2020. Im going along. Join us   http://t.co/MgcO9sXO #chat2lrn  15:07:28
pattishank RT @chat2lrn: Q1) What decade is your   company’s/client’s training stuck in? Why? #chat2lrn  15:07:29
ExpertusONE RT @chat2lrn: Q1) What decade is your   company’s/client’s training stuck in? Why? #chat2lrn  15:07:30
tomspiglanin RT @chat2lrn: Q1) What decade is your   company’s/client’s training stuck in? Why? #chat2lrn  15:07:33
janweverbergh RT @lesleywprice: What will training   depts be doing in 2020? http://t.co/oUvTIumd today 16.00/BST/11.00EDT/8.00PDT   #chat2lrn  15:07:34
JudithELS Oh boy!<RT @chat2lrn: Q1) What   decade is your company’s/client’s training stuck in? Why? #chat2lrn  15:07:51
olliegardener RT @chat2lrn: Q1) What decade is your   company’s/client’s training stuck in? Why? #chat2lrn  15:07:53
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn there are so many old   videos (VHS) that fill our L&D shelves. and a few DVD’s too.  15:08:26
pattishank Q1) A lot seem to still be in the   50s. Really. #chat2lrn  15:08:35
StevePL303 q1 – some are remarkably up to date,   but the sad majority are stuck somewhere in the late 90’s, early 2k’s   #chat2lrn  15:08:51
alc47 Q1 1790,s – still using a didactice   face to face one way style #Chat2lrn  15:08:52
megbertapelle Q1) I think maybe the 90s, but I’m   working on it – very enamored of “modules” – which were a fight to   get in the first place! LOL #chat2lrn  15:08:52
lesleywprice @janweverbergh Hi Jan….nice to   ‘see’ you here 🙂 #chat2lrn  15:08:55
tomspiglanin Stuck implies not moving. Not stuck,   but moving slowly out of the 90’s… #chat2lrn  15:09:03
dawnjmahoney RT @expertusone: RT @chat2lrn: Q1)   What decade is your company’s/client’s training stuck in? Why? #chat2lrn  15:09:37
lesleywprice +10 RT @tomspiglanin: Stuck implies   not moving. Not stuck, but moving slowly out of the 90s… #chat2lrn  15:09:37
StevePL303 q1 – or unable to move #chat2lrn  15:09:54
pattishank 90s implies e-learning?
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JudithELS Q1) I’d like to think mine’s in the   21st C but not so sure about some of my clients! Oops, I’ve said it now!   #chat2lrn  15:10:19
tomspiglanin Q1) Might be stuck in the PowerPoint   era. Still see new programs managed by assigning number of slides to an   expert. #chat2lrn  15:10:19
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn If 90’s implies elearning   then 1950 is more like it.  15:10:22
megbertapelle RT @tomspiglanin: Stuck implies not   moving. Not stuck, but moving slowly out of the 90s… <yeah, maybe not   stuck, but molasses #chat2lrn  15:10:24
pattishank I said 50s to imply one-way   transmission of info like schoolhouse. #chat2lrn  15:10:40
alc47 @pattishank Not necessarily – maybe   shifting to more participative #Chat2lrn  15:10:48
olliegardener q1) Many like the idea (benefits) of   2010+, just not the reality (approach). Too many talk the talk, but would   like a lift there!! #chat2lrn  15:11:01
lesleywprice q1) lots of ‘experts’ saying the same   @charlesjennings and @donaldhtaylor posted articles recently on topic   #chat2lrn  15:11:08
owenferguson Q1) Different orgs at different   stages of maturity. The profession as a whole hangs onto ideas for a long   time: Kikpatrick etc #chat2lrn  15:11:08
tomspiglanin @megbertapelle Molasses! Yes.  #chat2lrn  15:11:09
pattishank What decade is PPT? #chat2lrn  15:11:35
JudithELS Q0) Many of my clients are just   ‘discovering’ eLearning to replace F-2-F training. #chat2lrn  15:11:38
dawnjmahoney RT @zaralynnking: #chat2lrn there are   so many old videos (VHS) that fill our L&D shelves. and a few DVD’s   too/feel ya there!  15:11:48
pattishank @owenferguson: What decade is   Kirkpatrick would you say? #chat2lrn  15:12:11
alc47 @pattishank What is PPT? #Chat2lrn  15:12:14
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn LONG LIVE PPT!!!  15:12:30
megbertapelle MT @olliegardener: q1) Many like idea   (benefits) of 2010+, not reality (approach). Too many talk-t-talk, but wld   like lift there! #chat2lrn  15:12:34
JudithELS RT @owenferguson: Q1) Diff orgs at   diff stages of maturity. Profession as a whole hangs onto ideas for a long   time <spot on #chat2lrn  15:12:37
janweverbergh trying to combine learning &collaborative   problem solving #chat2lrn
what decade would that be?
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lesleywprice RT @pattishank: What decade is PPT? <ppt   can be good just peeps use it badly #chat2lrn  15:12:54
pattishank @JudithELS What decade is just   discovering e-learning? #chat2lrn  15:12:55
alc47 Q1 Seriously – moving – but slowly in   most places and well behind the early adopters of social learning #Chat2lrn  15:13:03
owenferguson @pattishank Microsoft bought it 25   years ago so definitely the 80s! #chat2lrn  15:13:08
tomspiglanin @pattishank I don’t see PPT as a   decade; more an era. It enabled delegation of content creation. It didn’t   ensure good design. #chat2lrn  15:13:11
pattishank @alc47 PPT=PowerPoint #chat2lrn  15:13:20
JudithELS RT @pattishank: @owenferguson: What   decade is Kirkpatrick would you say? <1950 when he came up with his model   wasn’t it? #chat2lrn  15:13:42
tomspiglanin Q1) Reason not stuck: I added support   for “informal” to the strategic plan, accepted without   question!  #chat2lrn  15:13:42
StevePL303 asynch eLearning. But some roll this   out without thinking the whole thing through. #chat2lrn  15:13:43
olliegardener q2) @owenferguson Diff people in same   org give completely diff impression on the org’s maturity 2. Learned 2   reserve judgement! #chat2lrn  15:13:47
chat2lrn Q2) How has the skillset required of L&D/training   dept changed in the last 20 years? #chat2lrn  15:13:51
lesleywprice RT @owenferguson: @pattishank   Microsoft bought it 25 years ago so definitely the 80s! lol!! #Chat2lrn  15:13:51
ZaraLynnKing @chat2lrn I am not old enought to   know…lol  #chat2lrn  15:14:09
dawnjmahoney RT @zaralynnking: #chat2lrn LONG LIVE   PPT!!!  15:14:12
pattishank So would you say we are mostly far   behind the times? #chat2lrn  15:14:18
lesleywprice RT @chat2lrn: Q2) How has the   skillset required of L&D/training dept changed in the last 20 years?   #Chat2lrn  15:14:21
KristiBroom RT @chat2lrn: Q2) How has the   skillset required of L&D/training dept changed in the last 20 years?   #chat2lrn  15:14:23
ZaraLynnKing @pattishank HECK YES! way behind   #chat2lrn  15:14:35
ZaraLynnKing RT @chat2lrn: Q2) How has the   skillset required of L&D/training dept changed in the last 20 years?   #chat2lrn  15:14:45
KristiBroom Q2) 20 years seems like a really long   timeframe. Lots of changes in last 20 months. #chat2lrn  15:14:47
megbertapelle RT @janweverbergh: trying to combine   learning &collaborative problem solving – what decade would that be? <snds   good 2 me #chat2lrn  15:14:48
StevePL303 q2 – skill sets depend on how   learning is being implemented.    #chat2lrn  15:14:49
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: Q2) How has the   skillset required of L&D/training dept changed in the last 20 years?   #chat2lrn  15:14:58
pattishank RT @chat2lrn: Q2) How has the   skillset required of L&D/training dept changed in the last 20 years?   #chat2lrn  15:15:05
olliegardener @janweverbergh sounds pretty   promising to me, but it depends on HOW you do it too, not just WHAT you do   😉  #chat2lrn  15:15:08
lesleywprice q2)skill set required has changed   massively!!! Not only teaching skills but also need business skills #Chat2lrn  15:15:16
pattishank RT @StevePL303: q2 – skill sets   depend on how learning is being implemented.    #chat2lrn  15:15:20
owenferguson @olliegardener very true – I tend to   look for what’s delivered rather than what level of knowledge and passion   people have though. #chat2lrn  15:15:24
olliegardener RT @chat2lrn: Q2) How has the   skillset required of L&D/training dept changed in the last 20 years?   #chat2lrn  15:15:26
dawnjmahoney RT @pattishank: 90s implies   e-learning?
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JudithELS RT @chat2lrn: Q2) How has the   skillset required of L&D/training dept changed in the last 20 years?   #chat2lrn  15:15:30
alc47 Q2 Not. Much as it should! Still   devising “teaching” – needs to move into listening and to talking   business language #Chat2lrn  15:15:36
lesleywprice RT @KristiBroom: Q2) 20 years seems   like a really long timeframe. Lots of changes in last 20 months <so true!!   #Chat2lrn  15:15:38
tomspiglanin RT @chat2lrn: Q2) How has the   skillset required of L&D/training dept changed in the last 20 years?   #chat2lrn  15:15:51
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn 1st there is a dept 2nd we   are not SME we are specialists 3rd technology demands detication  15:15:56
pattishank q2)Skillset  hasn’t kept up with what is needed. I think   that’s a given. #chat2lrn  15:16:02
StevePL303 q2 – skills used to be more   generalist, but with larger companies, much more specialization. #chat2lrn  15:16:25
janweverbergh @olliegardener teaching content   expert facilitating skills to cope with group dynamics in collaborative   approaches #chat2lrn  15:16:26
AmberandGreene greetings all, a bit late but ready   for chat2lrn
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megbertapelle Q2) I would say very removed from   stand-&-deliver approach, at least for some.  More development (online &support   materials) #chat2lrn  15:16:53
tomspiglanin Q2) I think most important   “skill” required of L&D today is critical/creative thinking and   doing. Endless options. #chat2lrn  15:17:01
lesleywprice q2) LPI launching a framework of   essential skills and competencies for L&D in Sept will be free to   community #Chat2lrn  15:17:08
JudithELS Yes&gt;RT @alc47: Q2 Not much as   it should! Still devising “teaching” – needs to move into listening   and to talking business language #chat2lrn  15:17:15
ExpertusONE A1) We’re lucky. Our customers are   forward-thinking. But much is invested in status quo &limited resources   make big shifts tricky #chat2lrn  15:17:40
olliegardener @owenferguson would should be a   better indicator too. Of the current reality at least. 🙂 #chat2lrn  15:17:41
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn it is less about quantity   and more about quality . we are looking at how to keep and motive rather then   demand productivity  15:17:42
pattishank @lesleywprice Explain? #chat2lrn  15:17:50
Kemibe just joining is it possible to RT Qs   pls #chat2lrn  15:18:07
pattishank Q2 20 years ago it was delivering   training. Still true today? #chat2lrn  15:18:19
KristiBroom Q2) starting a list…virtual   delivery, virtual clients, elearning, wisdom of the crowd, high rate of   change, multiple careers #chat2lrn  15:18:20
tomspiglanin Q2) Today L&D skill needs are   less about design and more about empowering. Partner, share, &communicate   more #chat2lrn  15:18:46
AmberandGreene Apologies for twitter storm during   the next hour will be taking part in #chat2lrn Training in 2020  #chat2lrn  15:18:47
megbertapelle +100 MT @tomspiglanin: Q2) thnk most   important “skill” required of L&D today is critical/creative   thinking &doing. Endless options #chat2lrn  15:19:08
ExpertusONE RT @JudithELS: RT @chat2lrn: Q2) How   has the skillset required of L&D/training dept changed in the last 20   years? #chat2lrn  15:19:21
alc47 Unfortunately yes in most places I   visit RT @pattishank: Q2 20 years ago it was delivering training. Still true   today? #Chat2lrn  15:19:23
megbertapelle RT @tomspiglanin: Q2) Today L&D   skill needs are less about design and more about empowering. Partner, share, &communicate   more #chat2lrn  15:19:23
tomspiglanin I think it is, but I’m pushing to   change this! RT @pattishank: Q2 20 years ago it was delivering training.   Still true today? #chat2lrn  15:19:38
lesleywprice @pattishank @yourLPI have been   working with community to identify skills needed by L&D to deliver   improved performance #Chat2lrn  15:19:42
pattishank RT @KristiBroom: Q2) starting a   list…My additions, not just courses, perf support, facilitation,   understanding the business,  #chat2lrn  15:19:55
dawnjmahoney RT @olliegardener: RT @chat2lrn: Q2)   How has the skillset required of L&D/training dept changed in the last 20   years? #chat2lrn  15:19:57
dawnjmahoney RT @lesleywprice: RT @KristiBroom:   Q2) 20 years seems like a really long timeframe. Lots of changes in last 20   months <so true!! #Chat2lrn  15:20:23
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn we are problem solvers and   dissectors of knowledge and skill  15:20:28
KristiBroom RT @pattishank: RT @KristiBroom: Q2)   My additions, not just courses, perf support, facilitation, understanding the   business,  #chat2lrn  15:20:40
lesleywprice @Kemibe most recent  Q2) How has the skillset required of L&D/training   dept changed in the last 20 years?    #Chat2lrn  15:20:57
pattishank Aren’t most L&D still delivering   primarily training, tho?
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megbertapelle RT @KristiBroom: Q2) starting a   list…virtual delivery &clients, elrning, wisdom of crowd, high rate of   chng, multiple careers #chat2lrn  15:21:21
alc47 Disseminators and enablers even RT   @ZaraLynnKing: we are problem solvers and dissectors of knowledge and skill   #Chat2lrn  15:21:36
ZaraLynnKing @pattishank i think they are. Even we   have to go to f to f session to learn.    #chat2lrn  15:21:39
alc47 Yes, sadly! RT @pattishank: Arent   most L&D still delivering primarily training, tho? #Chat2lrn  15:21:55
KristiBroom Q2) More on the list…need for   evaluations and methods, need for influencing, flexibility, identifying and   selling solutions #chat2lrn  15:21:57
JudithELS RT @pattishank: Arent most L&D   still delivering primarily training, tho? <The ones I know are &mainly   F-2-F as well! #chat2lrn  15:22:07
megbertapelle MT @pattishank: RT @KristiBroom: Q2)   …My adds: not just courses, perf support, facilitation, understanding the   biz,  #chat2lrn  15:22:08
KevinDJones Q2) Rather than creating lrng, create   an environment in which learning is ingrained into the way they work. Help   orgs transition. #chat2lrn  15:22:12
tomspiglanin @pattishank Ha! They changed the name   from T&D to L&D between 1990&2000! Now they “deliver”   learning…NOT. #chat2lrn  15:22:15
chat2lrn Q3) Are (todays) L&D/training   departments capable of supporting social/informal learning? #chat2lrn  15:22:24
pattishank @KristiBroom Are we any more   influential than we were? #chat2lrn  15:22:40
megbertapelle RT @ZaraLynnKing: @pattishank i think   they are. Even we have to go to f to f session to learn. <true #chat2lrn  15:22:49
tomspiglanin RT @chat2lrn: Q3) Are (todays) L&D/training   departments capable of supporting social/informal learning? #chat2lrn  15:22:53
pattishank @tomspiglanin Agree. #chat2lrn  15:22:54
StevePL303 q2 – high level = communication,   colaboration, critical thinking; L&D = ADDIE ,that would include a heavy   dose of evaluation #chat2lrn  15:22:54
JudithELS RT @chat2lrn: Q3) Are (todays) L&D/training   departments capable of supporting social/informal learning? #chat2lrn  15:22:56
lesleywprice RT @chat2lrn: Q3) Are (todays) L&D/training   departments capable of supporting social/informal learning? #Chat2lrn  15:22:58
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: Q3) Are (todays) L&D/training   departments capable of supporting social/informal learning? #chat2lrn  15:22:59
klaceyd RT @chat2lrn: Q3) Are (todays) L&D/training   departments capable of supporting social/informal learning? #chat2lrn  15:23:14
pattishank RT @chat2lrn: Q3) Are (todays) L&D/training   departments capable of supporting social/informal learning? #chat2lrn  15:23:15
ExpertusONE RT @KristiBroom Q2 starting list…   virtual delivery &clients, elearning, wisdom of  crowd, high rate of change, multiple   careers #chat2lrn  15:23:20
dawnjmahoney RT @megbertapelle: RT @chat2lrn: Q3)   Are (todays) L&D/training departments capable of supporting   social/informal learning? #chat2lrn  15:23:28
alc47 @tomspiglanin That’s hilarious –   butbsomsadly true – and what is worse managementbspottedvthe con #Chat2lrn  15:23:30
ZaraLynnKing @chat2lrn Honestly NO unfortunately   the general cooperate world has not accepted some. It is hard to get them to   embrace coaching #chat2lrn  15:23:31
megbertapelle MT @KristiBroom: Q2) More list…need   for evaluations &methods, need for influencing, flexibility, identifying &selling   solutions #chat2lrn  15:23:38
dawnjmahoney RT @pattishank: @KristiBroom Are we   any more influential than we were? #chat2lrn  15:23:47
lesleywprice q3) IMHO….unfortunately not many   are…problems with skills and IT  😦   #Chat2lrn  15:23:47
pattishank Q3) I’m not sure most know what it   means. #chat2lrn  15:24:00
alc47 Q3 Capable yes because we can all   learn – willing – not so sure #Chat2lrn  15:24:15
tomspiglanin Q3) Are today’s L&D departments   capable of supporting informal &social learning? I sure as heck hope so!   #chat2lrn  15:24:17
JudithELS Q3) Depends on what we mean by   ‘capable’: mindset, attitude, tools, culture, etc. #chat2lrn  15:24:22
ZaraLynnKing I think a little. we are here. RT   @dawnjmahoney: RT @pattishank: @KristiBroom Are we any more influential than   we were? #chat2lrn  15:24:24
klaceyd Kyla from @theStrokeAssoc dipping in   for Q3) in today’s #chat2lrn  15:24:32
megbertapelle Q3) I don’t think ours is ready –   bandwidth for that on top of developing for new procedures/products would be   awfully tough #chat2lrn  15:24:34
KristiBroom @pattishank I think we need to be. 20   years ago, classroom training may have been a given. Now, need to influence   to best solution #chat2lrn  15:24:38
lesleywprice MT@ZaraLynnKing: Honestly NO   unfortunately general corporate world has not accepted some. Hard to get them   to embrace coaching #Chat2lrn  15:24:40
olliegardener @janweverbergh fab! But, who the   “content exp.” is will fluctuate w change. 2020: Enable ppl to step   up &initiate collaboration #chat2lrn  15:24:41
tomspiglanin Q3) What does it take to support   informal learning?  #chat2lrn  15:24:42
KristiBroom RT @tomspiglanin: Q3) Are todays L&D   departments capable of supporting informal &social learning? I sure as   heck hope so! #chat2lrn  15:24:47
KristiBroom RT @alc47: Q3 Capable yes because we   can all learn – willing – not so sure #chat2lrn  15:24:54
KristiBroom True! last week’s #SWchat was on   social learning RT @pattishank: Q3) Im not sure most know what it means.   #chat2lrn  15:25:15
ZaraLynnKing @tomspiglanin Money and Resources.   People with the right mind set too.    #chat2lrn  15:25:17
alc47 Less so – surveys tell us RT   @dawnjmahoney: RT @pattishank: @KristiBroom Are we any more influential than   we were? #Chat2lrn  15:25:28
pattishank Q3) Are any of us here supporting   informal/social? #chat2lrn  15:25:32
Kemibe Q2 Presence on social media internet   has meant that you need to have layered skills set, for your 2 sides; face to   face and online #chat2lrn  15:25:43
megbertapelle @alc47 are you on your iPad or   something? I didn’t catch that… 😉 LOL    #chat2lrn  15:25:52
ExpertusONE RT @chat2lrn: Q3) Are (todays) L&D/training   departments capable of supporting social/informal learning? #chat2lrn  15:25:54
olliegardener RT @chat2lrn: Q3) Are (todays) L&D/training   departments capable of supporting social/informal learning? #chat2lrn  15:25:54
klaceyd Q3) We are capable of supporting it   but need to foster the willingness to engage in our colleagues #chat2lrn  15:26:03
Kemibe Q2 over last 20 years you need to   show intra-comprehension and inter-comprehension skills. #chat2lrn  15:26:04
KevinDJones Q3) Informal/social lrng is not   something that you can create, it happens in context. Role needs to move to   enabling that style. #chat2lrn  15:26:09
pattishank RT @tomspiglanin: Q3) What does it   take to support informal learning? First mangmnt must support, then undrtnd   how wrks #chat2lrn  15:26:22
olliegardener RT @KristiBroom: RT @alc47: Q3   Capable yes because we can all learn – willing – not so sure #chat2lrn  15:26:23
tomspiglanin Q3) What does it take to support   informal learning? See my post! http://t.co/Ay10oIGN awareness, mindset, &motivation   #chat2lrn  15:26:38
alc47 Living it – not supporting – we do it   all the time in living RT @pattishank: Q3) Are any of us here supporting   informal/social? #Chat2lrn  15:26:40
dawnjmahoney RT @alc47: Q3 Capable yes because we   can all learn – willing – not so sure #Chat2lrn  15:26:40
klaceyd RT @pattishank: Q3) Are any of us   here supporting informal/social? <We’ve only recently had the tools to do   this internally and.. #chat2lrn  15:26:43
owenferguson Q3) Capable? Maybe. Doing? No. It’s a   nascent field – many ideas are still in their infancy #chat2lrn  15:26:46
JudithELS RT @pattishank: Q3) Are any of us   here supporting informal/social? <Yes, when my clients will allow me to.   #chat2lrn  15:26:49
megbertapelle RT @tomspiglanin: Q3) What does it   take to support informal learning? <stop requiring hour-long click&read?   support a community #chat2lrn  15:27:05
tmiket @tomspiglanin learners who want to   take control of their own learning #chat2lrn  15:27:08
StevePL303 @pattishank in a sense, I do with   some LinkedIn groups #chat2lrn  15:27:15
KristiBroom RT @tomspiglanin: Q3) What does it   take to support informal lrng? See my post! http://t.co/uk9XUQ5e awareness,   mindset, motivation #chat2lrn  15:27:19
AmberandGreene To support informal learning, you   need  new mindset, informal does not   mean of non value or of less value that formal learning #chat2lrn  15:27:20
ZaraLynnKing @pattishank I currently am not   supporting informal learning. not sure i am the right one. But do promote it   #chat2lrn  15:27:26
megbertapelle MT @tomspiglanin: Q3) …support   informal learning? See my post! http://t.co/5jfzkPD8 awareness, mindset, &motivation   #chat2lrn  15:27:49
klaceyd @pattishank …so interest is   building. The challenge we now face is perhaps lack of skills but moreso a   lack of confidence. #chat2lrn  15:27:53
alc47 So right!RT @KevinDJones: Q3)   Inf/social lrng not something  can   create, it happens in context.needs to enable that style. #Chat2lrn  15:28:04
KevinDJones RT Q3) Are any of us here supporting   informal/social? <Yes, when my clients will allow me to.<Same here.   #chat2lrn  15:28:13
pattishank MT @tomspiglanin: See my post!   http://t.co/dydjtX73 awareness, mindset, &motivation #chat2lrn  15:28:31
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn Is it less support and more   creating the foundation?  15:28:33
tomspiglanin Q3) L&D support to social   learning different if formal. Need a social medium operating, maintained, and   supported. #chat2lrn  15:29:01
Kemibe informal learning just means a change   in the learning environment &maybe context but result is still the   same=valuable knowledge #chat2lrn  15:29:04
tmiket @alc47 those who aren’t willing will   eventually be bypassed I think #chat2lrn  15:29:08
megbertapelle MT @AmberandGreene: To support   informal lrng, you need new mindset, informal does not mean of no or less   value than formal lrng #chat2lrn  15:29:14
KevinDJones But I never call it   “Informal/Social Lrng”- I show it as a way to solve business   problems. They can easily relate to that. #chat2lrn  15:29:43
AmberandGreene @ZaraLynnKing agree you need to start   from the foundation, go from the ground and build upwards #chat2lrn  15:29:49
dawnjmahoney RT @zaralynnking: #chat2lrn Is it   less support and more creating the foundation? I think so!  15:30:30
ZaraLynnKing @AmberandGreene it is hard too cause   I am not a … I am a creator of your content. So I can encourage but not   manage or support #chat2lrn  15:30:37
chat2lrn Q4) What one thing could training   departments do to be more relevant to their organizations? #chat2lrn  15:30:48
olliegardener Q3) Tool provider. The tool enables   collaborative learning, IF used as intended. <were adding services &partners   2 help ensure #chat2lrn  15:30:49
alc47 Totally agree – happening in my   client right now RT @tmiket: @alc47 those who arent willing will eventually   be bypassed I think #Chat2lrn  15:30:51
ZaraLynnKing RT @chat2lrn: Q4) What one thing   could training departments do to be more relevant to their organizations?   #chat2lrn  15:31:24
JudithELS RT @chat2lrn: Q4) What one thing   could training departments do to be more relevant to their organizations?   #chat2lrn  15:31:26
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: Q4) What one thing   could training departments do to be more relevant to their organizations?   #chat2lrn  15:31:30
pattishank RT @KevinDJones I never call it   “Informal/Social Lrng”- I show it as a way to solve business problems.  #chat2lrn  15:31:32
ExpertusONE Q3 New roles, rules, processes, tools   – can support social/collab. But at its core, it’s a biz culture shift   reflected in learning #chat2lrn  15:31:37
tomspiglanin RT @chat2lrn: Q4) What one thing   could training departments do to be more relevant to their organizations?   #chat2lrn  15:31:37
StevePL303 @ZaraLynnKing don’t have to be a   creator of content, just know where to find it. #chat2lrn  15:31:46
pattishank RT @chat2lrn: Q4) What one thing   could training departments do to be more relevant to their organizations?   #chat2lrn  15:31:54
Kemibe Definition of informal having a   relaxed, friendly, or unofficial style, manner, or nature…#chat2lrn. what   does this say abt formal lrning!  15:32:04
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn Talk to people. with more   then one type of media. ripple affect.  15:32:23
megbertapelle Q4) understand the biz – ask the ppl   in the trenches what they need, and LISTEN, then give it to them, and LISTEN   again #chat2lrn  15:32:24
alc47 Q4 Add value by applying expertise to   solve business problems – not focus on creation and delivery – not always the   best soln #Chat2lrn  15:32:25
pattishank RT @StevePL303: @ZaraLynnKing dont   have to be a creator of content, just know where to find it. #chat2lrn  15:32:25
olliegardener RT @KevinDJones I never call it   “Informal/Social Lrng”- show it as a way 2 solve bus. problems.   They can easily relate to that.    #chat2lrn  15:32:30
StevePL303 @chat2lrn define relevant?
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tmiket @ZaraLynnKing @pattishank trick is to   make connections &work with those who can right? #Chat2lrn  15:32:36
KevinDJones As @dwilkinsnh once said,   “Training, like newspapers, will be disintermediated.” Lrng profs   need to change to stay relevant. #chat2lrn  15:32:46
tomspiglanin LISTEN! (HT @JaneBozarth) Q4) What   one thing could training departments do to be more relevant to their   organizations?  #chat2lrn  15:32:56
alc47 Agreed RT @pattishank: RT   @StevePL303: @ZaraLynnKing dont have to be a creator of content, just know   where to find it. #Chat2lrn  15:33:08
tomspiglanin MT @megbertapelle: Q4) understand the   biz – ask ppl in trenches what they need, and LISTEN, then give it to them &LISTEN   again #chat2lrn  15:33:22
dawnjmahoney RT @chat2lrn: Q4) What one thing   could training departments do to be more relevant to their organizations?   #chat2lrn  15:33:31
lesleywprice RT @tmiket: @alc47 those who arent   willing will eventually be bypassed I think @charlesjennings says same   http://t.co/hH2SigAw #Chat2lrn  15:33:33
pattishank q4) Ditch current roles. #chat2lrn  15:33:35
ZaraLynnKing @StevePL303 agree know where to find   it. t is my job. We then have to have the support come from the source for   SOME #chat2lrn  15:33:39
RichardRashty @tomspiglanin @chat2lrn | IMO go out   and speak to Biz unit leadership &emplyees to understand Biz Problems   #chat2lrn  15:33:44
tmiket RT @pattishank: RT @KevinDJones I   never call it “Informal/Social Lrng”- I show it as a way to solve   business problems.  #chat2lrn  15:33:56
lesleywprice RT @chat2lrn: Q4) What one thing   could training departments do to be more relevant to their organizations?   #Chat2lrn  15:34:03
olliegardener @Kemibe that   teachers/trainers/providers good at formal training will seriously miss the   control (power trip?) if made to change? #chat2lrn  15:34:03
alc47 @KevinDJones Whatbdoes disinter   mediated mean please? #Chat2lrn  15:34:19
KristiBroom RT @pattishank: q4) Ditch current   roles. #chat2lrn  15:34:35
pattishank Insanity is doing the same thing and   expecting a different outcome. #chat2lrn  15:34:36
lesleywprice q4) L&D NEED to become more   engaged with front line business operations otherwise how can they imp   performance #Chat2lrn  15:34:51
tomspiglanin “Indispensible” HT   @MarkSSamuel http://t.co/1wOFS0uz RT @StevePL303: @chat2lrn define relevant?   #chat2lrn  15:34:58
JudithELS Q4) Get into the real world.   #chat2lrn  15:35:09
pattishank RT @RichardRashty: @tomspiglanin go   out and speak to Biz unit leadership &emplyees to understand Biz Problems   #chat2lrn  15:35:11
KristiBroom Q4) If org is stuck in a decade long   ago, will be struggle for L&D to continue pushing to 2020 #chat2lrn  15:35:19
olliegardener @StevePL303 relevant = valuable /   top-of-mind / resource / a place to go #chat2lrn  15:35:25
we_are_FLOURISH Q4) evaluate learning success;   demonstrate its business value; embrace new approaches #chat2lrn  15:35:31
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn I tell everyone about you.   How I connect with you to learn mew things every day. Another Dept uses Skype   to converse.  minds move  15:35:45
alc47 Forget about roles and do something   positive to help – use expertise RT @KristiBroom: RT @pattishank: q4) Ditch   current roles. #Chat2lrn  15:35:53
pattishank RT @JudithELS: Q4) Get into the real   world. #chat2lrn  15:35:57
tomspiglanin How L&D Can be more relevant to   the biz: RT @JudithELS: Q4) Get into the real world. #chat2lrn  15:36:02
KevinDJones Q4) Recognize that L&D does not   control the lrng- employees do. Lrng will still live if L&D goes away.   So, empower them to learn. #chat2lrn  15:36:07
klaceyd RT @chat2lrn: Q4) Listen. Respond.   Mobilise. #chat2lrn  15:36:26
we_are_FLOURISH Q4) listen to the needs of the   business as well as the learners #chat2lrn  15:36:37
alc47 yes, yes, yes RT @pattishank: RT   @JudithELS: Q4) Get into the real world. #Chat2lrn  15:36:38
pattishank @we_are_FLOURISH I think most of what   they/we do is not valuable. Thus, ditch. #chat2lrn  15:36:40
AmberandGreene RT @tomspiglanin: How L&D Can be   more relevant to the biz: RT @JudithELS: Q4) Get into the real world.   #chat2lrn  15:36:44
LnDDave Greetings All. Dave Kelly from New   York, dropping in on #Chat2Lrn for a bit. Hope everyone is well.  15:36:51
ZaraLynnKing RT @pattishank: Insanity is doing the   same thing and expecting a different outcome. #chat2lrn what do you mean?  15:36:52
pattishank @KevinDJones Don’t need to empower,   right? They already do it. #chat2lrn  15:37:07
lesleywprice RT @pattishank: @we_are_FLOURISH I   think most of what they/we do is not valuable. Thus, ditch. #Chat2lrn  15:37:12
klaceyd RT @KevinDJones Q4)Recognize L&D   doesn’t control lrng- employees do. Lrng will still live if L&D goes   away. Empower them to learn #chat2lrn  15:37:22
KristiBroom RT @KevinDJones: Q4) Recognize L&D   does not control the lrng- employees do. Lrng will live if L&D goes   away…empower to learn. #chat2lrn  15:37:22
tomspiglanin Morning! RT @LnDDave Greetings All.   Dave Kelly from New York, dropping in on #Chat2Lrn for a bit. Hope everyone   is well.  15:37:32
megbertapelle x 1000 MT @KevinDJones: Q4) Recgnz L&D   does not control lrng- employees do. Lrng will still live if L&D goes   away. So empower thm #chat2lrn  15:37:39
lesleywprice @LnDDave Hi Dave….good tks..glad   you could join in 🙂 #Chat2lrn  15:37:40
pattishank Provide resources they need.   #chat2lrn  15:37:51
pattishank @LnDDave Glad to see you! #chat2lrn  15:38:10
we_are_FLOURISH @lesleywprice @pattishank Then there   needs to be a personality change??? #chat2lrn  15:38:12
olliegardener @we_are_FLOURISH and/or enable &support   employees’ ability to listen and act to the business’ needs. #chat2lrn  15:38:14
alc47 Q4 Exit the Training Centre, Learning   hub, lock door, do not go back for a yr, join    business and see what difference you can make #Chat2lrn  15:38:22
KevinDJones @pattishank They do, but need to   empower by creating the right culture in which learning is a part of the way   they work. #chat2lrn  15:38:24
we_are_FLOURISH RT @olliegardener: @we_are_FLOURISH   and/or enable &support employees’ ability to listen and act to the   business’ needs. #chat2lrn  15:38:36
lesleywprice MT @megbertapelle: x 1000 MT   @KevinDJones: Q4) Recgnz L&D does not control lrng Lrng will still live   if L&D goes away. So empower    #Chat2lrn  15:38:55
chat2lrn Q5) Do you agree with the 2020 skillset   (http://t.co/V9OBMywk )? #chat2lrn  15:39:02
StevePL303 @pattishank resources they need or   request? #chat2lrn  15:39:12
pattishank @we_are_FLOURISH Not sure what you   mean. #chat2lrn  15:39:14
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn it is a challenge whe some days   you can’t get ppl to do their job let alone the extras of lrning  15:39:17
lesleywprice RT @we_are_FLOURISH @pattishank Then   there needs to be a personality change??? <Absolutely!! #Chat2lrn  15:39:27
lesleywprice RT @chat2lrn: Q5) Do you agree with   the 2020 skillset (http://t.co/sxp30BOs )? #Chat2lrn  15:39:34
LnDDave RT @chat2lrn: Q5) Do you agree with   the 2020 skillset (http://t.co/V9OBMywk )? #chat2lrn  15:39:36
KristiBroom RT @chat2lrn: Q5) Do you agree with   the 2020 skillset (http://t.co/obuHv7rh )? #chat2lrn  15:39:38
pattishank @alc47 Wow! #chat2lrn  15:39:44
olliegardener RT @chat2lrn: Q5) Do you agree with   the 2020 skillset (http://t.co/9fjpBAgv )? #chat2lrn  15:39:45
JudithELS RT @chat2lrn: Q5) Do you agree with   the 2020 skillset (http://t.co/vrJwWKNX )? #chat2lrn  15:39:47
pattishank @StevePL303 Great! Both! #chat2lrn  15:40:02
KevinDJones RT @lesleywprice: RT @we_are_FLOURISH   @pattishank Then there needs to be a personality change??? <Absolutely!!   &gt;+1! #chat2lrn  15:40:09
klaceyd RT@alc47 Q4 Exit Training Centre,   Learning hub, lock door, don’t go back for a yr, join business. See what   difference you can make #chat2lrn  15:40:09
pattishank RT @chat2lrn: Q5) Do you agree with   the 2020 skillset (http://t.co/xVHL1PQG )? #chat2lrn  15:40:15
klaceyd RT @chat2lrn: Q5) Do you agree with   the 2020 skillset (http://t.co/14lbrv9M )? #chat2lrn  15:40:16
ZaraLynnKing RT @chat2lrn: Q5) Do you agree with   the 2020 skillset (http://t.co/V9OBMywk )? #chat2lrn  15:40:18
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: Q5) Do you agree with   the 2020 skillset (http://t.co/7pSJOJf9 )? #chat2lrn  15:40:32
RichardRashty IMO Corp learning typically 2 focused   around new tools and processes <need to link more into culture &behaviors   #Chat2lrn  15:40:33
tomspiglanin I agree 100% with @marciamarcia RT   @chat2lrn: Q5) Do you agree with the 2020 skillset (http://t.co/C4pBu939 )?   #chat2lrn  15:40:48
KristiBroom Q5) I agree, and think there is a   very large chasm to cross in 7.5 years to get there! #chat2lrn  15:41:11
LnDDave Q5) I agree with most of the skills;   I just think they’re already needed. #Chat2lrn  15:41:11
Kemibe the 2020 skillset is fine but  are all outward looking and there is   nothing inward looking to develop ppl within themseleves #chat2lrn  15:41:14
lesleywprice q5) I think that list contains too   much jargon and if I don’t understand it so if I don’t who else will   #Chat2lrn  15:41:16
megbertapelle RT @pattishank: @StevePL303 Great!   Both! <agreed 🙂 smtms requests are silly, smtms ppl don’t realize what   they need, gotta dig! #chat2lrn  15:41:28
pattishank Q5) Yes. #chat2lrn  15:41:34
tmiket @ZaraLynnKing I think learning is   part of the job Top performers are always learning right? #chat2lrn  15:41:42
KevinDJones Q4) L&D’s charter needs to   completely change. Focus on ppl lrng from ppl, connecting to each other,   sharing, creating culture… #chat2lrn  15:41:47
KristiBroom q5) I think we need to start today   with things like letting people think for themselves, &get overwhelmed in   info, &find meaning #chat2lrn  15:42:07
tomspiglanin This is true! RT @LnDDave Q5) I agree   with most of the skills; I just think they’re already needed. #Chat2lrn  15:42:09
JudithELS Q5) Absolutely. Given that we’re only   8 years away, this list is spot on IMO #chat2lrn  15:42:14
ZaraLynnKing To be successful and advance into   complex roles yes the list applies but to “joe” not sure #chat2lrn  15:42:28
RichardRashty @megbertapelle @chat2lrn <IMO many   people will never be able to master those skills  #chat2lrn  15:42:34
we_are_FLOURISH Q5) while this make perfect sense –   are we not over complicating learning, which can turn people off? #chat2lrn  15:42:39
KristiBroom Agree RT @LnDDave: Q5) I agree with   most of the skills; I just think theyre already needed. #chat2lrn  15:42:41
klaceyd Q5) Number 9 is going to be key as   the workforce of today engage in social learning, collaboration &development   moving into 2020. #chat2lrn  15:42:43
AmberandGreene 2020 some look like new labels for   old skills to reflect our more informed and developed understanding about   competencies&skills #chat2lrn  15:42:46
megbertapelle RT @tomspiglanin: This is true! RT   @LnDDave Q5) I agree with most of the skills; I just think theyre already   needed. <agreed #chat2lrn  15:42:51
StevePL303 @KristiBroom agree! the corporate   mindset needs to change as well #chat2lrn  15:42:52
pattishank MT @KevinDJones: L&Ds charter   needs to completely change. Focus on ppl lrng from ppl, connecting to each   other, sharing… #chat2lrn  15:42:59
StevePL303 @RichardRashty you may be right!
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olliegardener q5) @marciamarcia is usually quite   sensible 😉 But I’d like to see it sooner &that might depend on   additional skills from leaders #chat2lrn  15:43:26
AmberandGreene RT @Kemibe:2020 skillset is fine   but  are all outward looking and there   is nothing inward looking to develop ppl within themselves #chat2lrn  15:43:50
LnDDave Q5) I don’t think the skills listed   are ‘learning’ skills; they’re skills needed for a transformed workplace.   #Chat2lrn  15:43:52
KristiBroom Q5) Also, need to let people learn   instead of forcing training on them #chat2lrn  15:44:24
ZaraLynnKing @tmiket Agree The challenge is to   flow the mond set outward as well.    #chat2lrn  15:44:35
tomspiglanin @pattishank @KevinDJones So finally   change the charter to match name change from T&D to L&D. #chat2lrn  15:44:37
ExpertusONE MT @megbertapelle x1000 MT   @KevinDJones Q4) Recgnz L&D does not control learning. It will still live   if L&D goes away. So empower #chat2lrn  15:44:53
StevePL303 @pattishank will generational   differences make this harder or facilitate it happening? #chat2lrn  15:44:59
pattishank What skills would you add? #chat2lrn  15:45:24
olliegardener @RichardRashty not to be taken for   granted for sure. Will require a change in the approach to education too. as   well as leadership #chat2lrn  15:46:04
pattishank Does anyone really care what we name   ourselves?
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AmberandGreene RT @LnDDave: Q5) I dont think the   skills listed are learning skills; theyre skills needed for a transformed   workplace. #chat2lrn  15:46:24
pattishank RT @LnDDave: Q5) I dont think the   skills listed are learning skills; theyre skills needed for a transformed   workplace. #chat2lrn  15:46:43
tomspiglanin @pattishank I think the 10 skills   should be a roadmap for us all. Where are our skill gaps? What do we need to   change? #chat2lrn  15:46:51
KristiBroom I have to run early today. As always,   this has been a great chat. Have a fabulous week! #chat2lrn  15:47:01
lesleywprice @LnDDave: I agree..that is why I join   in #Swchat 21.00BST ..met many like minded peeps who are looking at workplace   in gen #Chat2lrn  15:47:02
LnDDave Q5) For many workers, the skills will   need to be broken down to language and practices that are more relevant to   their space. #chat2lrn  15:47:03
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn ppl who appreciate skills   strive for them and understand them. But most don’t.  how do we industry sell it? make it   palatable  15:47:04
RichardRashty @pattishank | IMO I would add   Techniques on breaking down walls to build TRUST  &gt;human skills #chat2lrn  15:47:05
StevePL303 @pattishank Just so the light bulbs   get turned on. #chat2lrn  15:47:18
chat2lrn Q6) Can a 2020 skillset be   taught/facilitated? #chat2lrn  15:47:24
ExpertusONE “Like” <RT   @tomspiglanin: @pattishank @KevinDJones So finally change the charter to   match name change from T&D to L&D #chat2lrn  15:47:24
pattishank @we_are_FLOURISH People are   responsible and accountable for their own learning. Always have been.   #chat2lrn  15:47:32
olliegardener @Kemibe so true. Now there’s a   skill!! “ability to LET GO” #chat2lrn  15:47:39
ZaraLynnKing RT @chat2lrn: Q6) Can a 2020 skillset   be taught/facilitated? #chat2lrn  15:47:46
tomspiglanin RT @chat2lrn: Q6) Can a 2020 skillset   be taught/facilitated? #chat2lrn  15:47:48
LnDDave RT @chat2lrn: Q6) Can a 2020 skillset   be taught/facilitated? #chat2lrn  15:47:53
pattishank RT @chat2lrn: Q6) Can a 2020 skillset   be taught/facilitated? #chat2lrn  15:48:04
owenferguson Q5) Not every skill is going to be   needed for every job. They’re very much skills for knowledge workers. There   are other jobs. #chat2lrn  15:48:13
lesleywprice MT @tomspiglanin: @pattishank 10   skills should be a roadmap for us all.    @yourLPI Capability Map launching in Sept will be FoC #Chat2lrn  15:48:19
lesleywprice RT @chat2lrn: Q6) Can a 2020 skillset   be taught/facilitated? #Chat2lrn  15:48:29
olliegardener @pattishank Not unless the name is   misleading in terms of what the dept does…    #chat2lrn  15:48:31
tomspiglanin Q6) Walk the talk. L&D is part of   the workforce. All those skills are required of L&D as much as the rest   of the org. #chat2lrn  15:49:01
RichardRashty Good or Bad ?<IMO L&D needs to   have some elements of building “Life Skills” within corp context   #chat2lrn  15:49:15
LnDDave Q6) There’s new skills to learn, but   there’s new mindsets to apply; that’s the harder shift. #Chat2lrn  15:49:18
we_are_FLOURISH @pattishank i completely agree,   therefore when it doesn’t work there needs to be a personality change.   #chat2lrn  15:49:20
pattishank @olliegardener Good point. Do you   think it would be with these skills? #chat2lrn  15:49:32
pattishank @tomspiglanin SO TRUE!!! #chat2lrn  15:49:45
ZaraLynnKing the skills we have listed I am not   sure but leaning toward no. #chat2lrn  15:49:53
pattishank @we_are_FLOURISH Ah, yes! I get it   now. #chat2lrn  15:49:57
pattishank RT @LnDDave: Q6) Theres new skills to   learn, but theres new mindsets to apply; thats the harder shift. #chat2lrn  15:50:07
lesleywprice +100 RT @LnDDave: Q6) Theres new   skills to learn, but theres new mindsets to apply; thats the harder shift.   #Chat2lrn  15:50:33
RichardRashty RT @pattishank: RT @LnDDave: Q6)   Theres new skills to learn, but theres new mindsets to apply; thats the   harder shift. #chat2lrn  15:50:33
KevinDJones Q4) A 2020 skill set is not focusing   solely on L&D, but solving business problems using many skills,   techniques, tools, etc. #chat2lrn  15:50:35
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn traditional learning will   not apply to my children. Not in the workforce. They don’t have the attention   span for it.  15:50:58
we_are_FLOURISH @pattishank Sorry Patti, I should   have deatiled better! #chat2lrn  15:51:12
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn I can teach my teen nieces   more texting then a teacher can in 40 min.  15:51:26
lesleywprice MT @KevinDJones: Q4) A 2020 skill set   is not focusing solely on L&D, but solving bus problems using many skills   and tools #Chat2lrn  15:51:36
AmberandGreene RT @LnDDave: Q5) For many workers,   the skills need to be broken down to language/practices that are more   relevant to their space. #chat2lrn  15:51:54
owenferguson Q6) Some of these skills require   guidance, support and practice over a very long period of time. It starts in   education. #chat2lrn  15:51:55
pattishank MT @ZaraLynnKing: traditional   learning will not apply to my children. They dont have the attention span for   it.<Big  aha!!! #chat2lrn  15:51:57
alc47 Q5 2020 is too far away to predict   skillet – except will be about interaction, collaboration, influence, ability   with technology #Chat2lrn  15:51:58
pattishank RT @ZaraLynnKing: #chat2lrn I can   teach my teen nieces more texting then a teacher can in 40 min. #chat2lrn  15:52:06
pattishank RT @we_are_FLOURISH: @pattishank Sorry   Patti, I should have deatiled better! <Thanks for helping me get it!   #chat2lrn  15:52:21
olliegardener @pattishank “training” is 2   narrow 4 me. L&D can mean both 4 the org &individual &spans diff   approaches. Makes sense in my head #chat2lrn  15:52:29
LnDDave Q6) Some of the 2020 skills are less   about individuals, and more about cultures. #Chat2lrn  15:52:40
pattishank I think Zara helped me get that we   won’t be “teaching” at all. #chat2lrn  15:52:46
lesleywprice +100 RT @owenferguson: Q6) Some skills   require guidance, support &practice over very long period of time –   starts in education. #Chat2lrn  15:52:49
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn development… fostering   success to empower individuals to the best of THEIR ability… This is the   future  15:52:52
MikeCollins007 q6) we need to create and build the   workplaces and live the values where those skills become critical to succeed   #chat2lrn <hi folks 🙂  15:52:57
owenferguson @alc47 just like now – people will   still be people! #chat2lrn  15:53:13
pattishank @alc47 2020 is tomorrow 🙂 #chat2lrn  15:53:31
tomspiglanin And seamless collaboration +RT   @LnDDave: Q6) Some of the 2020 skills are less about individuals, and more   about cultures. #chat2lrn  15:53:43
olliegardener RT @owenferguson: Q6) Some skills   require guidance, support &practice over very long period of time –   starts in education. #chat2lrn  15:53:51
we_are_FLOURISH Q5) Technology shifts in the next 8   years will be unpredictable, and will change how we learn anyway! #chat2lrn  15:53:51
alc47 Agree but their needs will be   different RT @pattishank: @alc47 2020 is tomorrow 🙂 #Chat2lrn  15:54:14
pattishank @MikeCollins007 I think that’s   right… it may be FAR more about environment. #chat2lrn  15:54:29
chat2lrn Q7) What will L&D/training   departments be doing in 2020? #chat2lrn  15:54:39
tomspiglanin Q6) L&D SHOULD be a catalyst for   change. Don’t wait for 2020, this change started years ago. #chat2lrn  15:54:44
lesleywprice @owenferguson Think there is a lot of   joining up to be done between education and workplace  L&D have a responsiblity #Chat2lrn  15:54:57
tomspiglanin RT @chat2lrn: Q7) What will L&D/training   departments be doing in 2020? #chat2lrn  15:54:59
ZaraLynnKing RT @tomspiglanin: Q6) L&D SHOULD   be a catalyst for change. Don’t wait for 2020, this change started years ago.   #chat2lrn  15:55:02
pattishank RT @chat2lrn: Q7) What will L&D/training   departments be doing in 2020? #chat2lrn  15:55:09
ExpertusONE B/C complexion of biz &workforce   w/b much different RT @alc47 Q5 2020 too far away to predict skills excpt   interaction, collab… #chat2lrn  15:55:10
pattishank RT @tomspiglanin: Q6) L&D SHOULD   be a catalyst for change. Dont wait for 2020, this change started years ago.   #chat2lrn  15:55:16
ZaraLynnKing RT @chat2lrn: Q7) What will L&D/training   departments be doing in 2020? #chat2lrn  15:55:17
MikeCollins007 RT @tomspiglanin: Q6) L&D SHOULD   be a catalyst for change. Don’t wait for 2020, this change started years ago.   #chat2lrn  15:55:23
KevinDJones So what are U doing to work this way?   Or are we falling back to old ways? If we aren’t changing, we can’t expect   2020 to be diff. #chat2lrn  15:55:30
we_are_FLOURISH Q7) they will be on #Chat2lrn –   learning how to cope with the future of learning in 2030 🙂  15:55:36
olliegardener @LnDDave Completely agree –  also why I like them 😉  Requires additional skills from leaders in   getting to that point mind #chat2lrn  15:55:42
olliegardener RT @MikeCollins007: RT @tomspiglanin:   Q6) L&D SHOULD be a catalyst for change. Dont wait for 2020, this change   started years ago. #chat2lrn  15:55:51
JudithELS RT @chat2lrn: Q7) What will L&D/training   departments be doing in 2020? <Not what most of them are doing now I hope!   #chat2lrn  15:55:55
olliegardener RT @chat2lrn: Q7) What will L&D/training   departments be doing in 2020? #chat2lrn  15:56:10
pattishank RT @we_are_FLOURISH: Q7) they will be   on #Chat2lrn – learning how to cope with the future of learning in 2030 🙂   #chat2lrn  15:56:11
RichardRashty @olliegardener @owenferguson |   Sometimes L&D has to undo previous attitude &behaviors #chat2lrn  15:56:23
owenferguson @lesleywprice absolutely – it’s a   society need, so requires long term thinking and solutions. #chat2lrn  15:56:24
pattishank RT @JudithELS: RT @chat2lrn: Q7) What   will L&D/training departments be doing in 2020? <Not what most of them   are doing now I hope! #chat2lrn  15:56:24
tmiket @pattishank @tomspiglanin right! It   is better to lead the change than trail behind it #chat2lrn  15:56:29
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn q7) It will be what we   should be today. coaches and cheerleaders. Providing theory learning then   tools for support and developmet  15:56:36
tomspiglanin Q7) 2020 L&D: More on-demand,   peformance support at time of need, to/from the wrkplc not in a classroom.   #chat2lrn  15:56:45
LnDDave RT @chat2lrn: Q7) What will L&D/training   departments be doing in 2020? #chat2lrn  15:56:56
pattishank Q8) I have no clue. But hopefully not   stuck. #chat2lrn  15:57:40
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn Maybe we will all be game designers???  lol  15:57:42
ZaraLynnKing RT @pattishank: Q8) I have no clue.   But hopefully not stuck. #chat2lrn  15:57:47
AmberandGreene Q7 will it be called L&D in 2020   you think? #chat2lrn  15:57:48
LnDDave Q7) There will be plenty of L&D   groups doing exactly what they do today in 2020. Many don’t know what they   don’t know. #chat2lrn  15:57:48
JD_Dillon RT @tomspiglanin: Q7) 2020 L&D:   More on-demand, peformance support at time of need, to/from the wrkplc not in   a classroom. #chat2lrn  15:57:59
ExpertusONE Are we there yet? 🙂 RT @tomspiglanin   Q7) 2020 L&D: More on-demand, perf support at time of need, to/from the   wrkplc not classroom #chat2lrn  15:58:05
chat2lrn We are at an end, but don’tfret. Let’s   continue the conversation online: http://t.co/KV4aL9My #chat2lrn  15:58:28
olliegardener q7) hopefully L&D will have   realised its role as an enabler/facilitator/remover-of-obstacles. Stopped   insisting on delivering. #chat2lrn  15:58:34
RichardRashty I hear CEOs talk about transforming   their biz to become a “digital business” <L&D must be part   of the strategy FROM the Beginning #chat2lrn  15:58:37
lesleywprice RT @ZaraLynnKing: #chat2lrn Maybe we   will all be game designers???  lol <jargon   alert  ‘Gamification’ 🙂 #chat2lrn  15:58:38
owenferguson Q7) How different is what they do now   from what they did in 2004? Not *that* different – same for 2020. Change will   be gradual. #chat2lrn  15:58:47
lesleywprice RT @chat2lrn: We are at an end, but don’tfret.   Let’s continue the conversation online: http://t.co/Mk9n3cAz #chat2lrn  15:59:04
chat2lrn Thanks for joining #chat2lrn today! A   transcript will be posted on the blog at http://t.co/SxIyykqb. #chat2lrn  15:59:06
pattishank Many of us need to be daring.   #chat2lrn  15:59:11
LnDDave Q7) Hopefully what is   forward-thinking and cutting edge today will be closer to mass acceptance in   2020. #Chat2lrn  15:59:13
LnDDave RT @pattishank: Many of us need to be   daring. #chat2lrn  15:59:18
chat2lrn Should u blog on this topic or in   response 2 #chat2lrn …we want 2 know!! http://t.co/KV4aL9My  15:59:27
tomspiglanin @ExpertusONE The social tools &capabilities   are there to meet the need, how many orgs are using them effectively?   #chat2lrn  15:59:27
olliegardener RT @chat2lrn: Thanks for joining   #chat2lrn today! A transcript will be posted on the blog at   http://t.co/mTtoSfl4. #chat2lrn  15:59:35
JudithELS Where did the time go? RT @chat2lrn:   We are at an end but don’tfret. Let’s continue the conversation online:   http://t.co/SRJznKF6 #chat2lrn  15:59:41
ZaraLynnKing RT @pattishank: Many of us need to be   daring. #chat2lrn with great risk comes great reward  15:59:46
we_are_FLOURISH Q7) in 2000 i expected to be further   ahead with controling L&D; now there needs to be action not analysis on   shaping L&D’s future #chat2lrn  15:59:49
tomspiglanin @lesleywprice @chat2lrn I fret,   therefore I am. 😉 #chat2lrn  16:00:07
chat2lrn #chat2lrn is tackling the topic of   Transparency in two weeks time. A blog or article to get the cogs moving   coming soon…  16:00:14
olliegardener RT @pattishank: Many of us need to be   daring. <- yay! Makes for a MUCH more interesting life 😉 #chat2lrn  16:00:14
owenferguson Q7) Hopefully more experimental, less   obsessed with the LMS and making a significant difference to performance.   #chat2lrn  16:00:26
pattishank Thanks everyone!!! #chat2lrn  16:00:26
MikeCollins007 @owenferguson so the decision to make   is will we help that change and drive it forward or be the laggard #chat2lrn  16:00:29
pattishank RT @ZaraLynnKing: RT @pattishank:   Many of us need to be daring. #chat2lrn with great risk comes great reward   #chat2lrn  16:00:31
pattishank RT @tomspiglanin: @lesleywprice   @chat2lrn I fret, therefore I am. 😉 #chat2lrn  16:00:37
tomspiglanin NICE! MT @chat2lrn #chat2lrn is tackling   the topic of Transparency in two weeks time. A blog or article to get the   cogs moving coming soon  16:00:46
we_are_FLOURISH @LnDDave I have tried it and it was   successful, but more people need to embrace it!! #chat2lrn  16:00:52
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: #chat2lrn is tackling   the topic of Transparency in two weeks time. A blog or article to get the   cogs moving coming soon…  16:01:02
pattishank RT @owenferguson: Q7) Hopefully more   experimental, less obsessed with the LMS and making a significant difference   to performance. #chat2lrn  16:01:03
lesleywprice @owenferguson can L&D afford   gradual change when the outside world is changing so quickly….I think not!   #chat2lrn  16:01:04
ZaraLynnKing #chat2lrn Thank you everyone for your   honesty and great discussion today! Chat soon  16:01:08
JudithELS RT @chat2lrn: we’re tackling the   topic of Transparency in two weeks time. A blog or article to get the cogs   moving coming soon… #chat2lrn  16:01:16
RichardRashty @olliegardener Totally agree <I   have been in meetings with CxO where L&D was perceived NOT to be about   people skills #chat2lrn  16:01:16
alc47 Sorry to have missed the last bit   Twitter froze! #Chat2lrn  16:01:18
olliegardener +1 RT @owenferguson: Q7) Hopefully   more experimental, less obsessed w the LMS and making a significant   difference to performance. #chat2lrn  16:01:46
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: Should u blog on this   topic or in response 2 #chat2lrn …we want 2 know!! http://t.co/KV4aL9My  16:02:07
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: Thanks for joining   #chat2lrn today! A transcript will be posted on the blog at   http://t.co/SxIyykqb. #chat2lrn  16:02:20
megbertapelle RT @chat2lrn: We are at an end, but don’tfret.   Let’s continue the conversation online: http://t.co/KV4aL9My #chat2lrn  16:02:29
owenferguson @MikeCollins007 That’s happening now,   with people like we have here. Takes time for early adopter behaviour to   filter through tho #chat2lrn  16:02:33
ExpertusONE Yep. Oppty L&D practitioners to   “be the change” RT @tomspiglanin @ExpertusONE Social tools r there;   how many orgs use effectively? #chat2lrn  16:02:46
olliegardener RT @megbertapelle: RT @chat2lrn:   Should u blog on this topic or in response 2 #chat2lrn …we want 2 know!!   http://t.co/BIZoIw3Y #chat2lrn  16:02:53
npmaven Amen. RT @LnDDave: Q6) There’s new   skills to learn, but there’s new mindsets to apply; that’s the harder shift.   #Chat2lrn  16:03:36
ExpertusONE Thx all! “Without a vision, the   people will perish.” Great to be part of a group that is forward-thinking   &full of change agents! #chat2lrn  16:04:23
owenferguson @lesleywprice I hope I’m wrong, but   outside of online networks, I see very slow adoption of new ideas, and   casting off of old ones #chat2lrn  16:04:50
RichardRashty hear abt Orgs leveraging Social Media   2 improve performance, but Social implies ppl-2-People skils <L&D key   in developing those #chat2lrn  16:05:21
olliegardener @sukhpabial isn’t/shouldn’t that the   role of L&D though.. to be what “sets org. up to deal with it”?   #chat2lrn  16:06:51
jess1ecat RT @tmiket: @pattishank @tomspiglanin   right! It is better to lead the change than trail behind it #chat2lrn  16:07:00
tomspiglanin Thanks, all! Great chat, worth   climbing out from under my rock. Now hopefully I can stay out! Much to do…   #chat2lrn  16:08:02
jess1ecat Damn I missed #chat2lrn again,   clashing meetings, looking forward to reading the transcript, good topic!  16:08:35
lesleywprice RT @tomspiglanin  @chat2lrn I fret, therefore I am. 😉   #chat2lrn <lol!!  16:08:53
RichardRashty @tmiket @olliegardener I agree.  IMO the fault is not the CxO but the   perceptions born from L&D leadership #chat2lrn  #keepItReal  16:11:09
Chex1979 RT @chat2lrn: #chat2lrn is tackling   the topic of Transparency in two weeks time. A blog or article to get the   cogs moving coming soon…  16:11:19
NeliaLisse Q7) What will L&D/training   departments be doing in 2020? #chat2lrn”  16:13:57
AllenComm RT @tomspiglanin: Q6) L&D SHOULD   be a catalyst for change. Don’t wait for 2020, this change started years ago.   #chat2lrn  16:29:24
AllenComm RT @LnDDave: Q6) Some of the 2020   skills are less about individuals, and more about cultures. #Chat2lrn  16:29:36
eras_ltd RT @chat2lrn: Q7) What will L&D/training   departments be doing in 2020? #chat2lrn  16:30:43
tomspiglanin @ZaraLynnKing Nice engaging with you   in #chat2lrn!  16:30:58
dawnjmahoney RT @tomspiglanin: @ZaraLynnKing Nice   engaging with you in #chat2lrn! |She’s fabulous! 🙂  16:34:20
JD_Dillon RT @chat2lrn: #chat2lrn is tackling   the topic of Transparency in two weeks time. A blog or article to get the   cogs moving coming soon…  17:10:02
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